[2130] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Trickle Down? How About Bubble Up?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brian Lloyd)
Tue Jan 28 00:29:08 1992
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 92 21:27:02 PST
From: brian@lloyd.com (Brian Lloyd)
To: Stef@nma.com
Cc: jhaverty@us.oracle.com, daveh@csn.org, com-priv@psi.com
In-Reply-To: Einar Stefferud's message of Mon, 27 Jan 92 12:47:18 PST <29663.696545238@nma.com>
Reply-To: brian@lloyd.com
Reply-To: Stef@nma.com
From: Einar Stefferud <Stef@nma.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 92 12:47:18 PST
Sender: stef@nma.com
Well guys -- It sure looks clear now that IP/PPP is still in the
experimental stage, and that the claims that it is better than
somethign else are still speculation, pending analysis of the results
of ongoing experimentation.
This is wonderful, and I can hardly wait to see the results.
In the meantime, back to SENDMAIL/UUCP FIDO and MMDF/PHONENET...\Stef
Absolutely no speculation about PPP being better than SLIP. There are
a number of implementations. You can get a number of end-point PPP
implementations that work very well. The problem stems from a lack of
dial-up routers supporting PPP. The closest thing so far seems to be
the Telebit NetBlazer but it still doesn't do IP address assignment,
something needed for a dial-up IP/PPP service. Livingston has
promised us something Real Soon Now. I have also heard that Xylogics'
Annex III will support PPP but I have no details (yet). This is what
is keeping the service providers from fielding dial-up PPP in a big way.
As for the sync side of things, PPP is quite nice. It is refreshing
to be able to plug one vendor's hardware into another's across a 56K
or T1 link. At BARRNet we now use cisco's at the hub sites because
they support PPP (among other reasons but PPP was a big reason).
BARRNet's members can now use a number of different vendors' devices
at their end of the link. Perhaps our last frustration is that
Proteon does NOT support PPP (and we have lots of Proteons left lying
around that are only marginally useful to connect to leaf sites for
that reason). On the other hand, cisco's OSPF is still under test so
Proteon beats them in that area.
(*sigh* Wouldn't it be nice if ONE router vendor would do everything
we want to do. Anyone know of a router vendor that has robust
implementations of both OSPF and PPP?)
Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN Lloyd & Associates
Principal and Network Architect 3420 Sudbury Road
brian@lloyd.com Cameron Park, CA 95682
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