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Re: 6.3B: login (zwgc in /usr/athena/lib/init/login)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (probe@ATHENA.MIT.EDU)
Sun Aug 13 15:35:56 1989

From: <probe@ATHENA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 89 15:35:35 -0400
To: jik@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
Cc: testers@ATHENA.MIT.EDU, bugs@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
In-Reply-To: Jonathan I. Kamens's message of Sun, 13 Aug 89 02:20:16 -0400,
Reply-To: Richard Basch   <probe@ATHENA.MIT.EDU>


> Date: Sun, 13 Aug 89 02:20:16 -0400
> From: Jonathan I. Kamens <jik@ATHENA.MIT.EDU>
> Sender: jik@ATHENA.MIT.EDU

> >[2819] daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Athena Bugs 08/11/89 18:10 (17 lines)
> >Subject: 6.3B: login
> >From: <probe@ATHENA.MIT.EDU>
> >Date: Fri, 11 Aug 89 18:10:37 -0400
> >To: bugs@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
> >Reply-To: Richard Basch   <probe@ATHENA.MIT.EDU>
> >
> >    if (! $?skip_tty_startup) then
> >	    echo "Running standard startup activities ..."
> >	    set ignoreeof                           # ^D won't log you out
> >	    /usr/etc/zwgc                           # Start Zephyr client
> >	    /bin/athena/get_message -new            # Get message of the day
> >	    /usr/new/mh/bin/msgchk -nonotify nomail # Check for mail
> >	    (/usr/athena/olc who &) >& /dev/null    # Ping the OLC server
> >    endif
> >
> >The invocation for zwgc looks wrong to me for a tty startup...
> >
> >-Richard
> >--[2819]--

>   I do not agree.  If a user desires the zwgc to start up when he/she
> is using tty mode, then he/she will set fallback to true in
> .zephyr.vars.  Otherwise, s/he will be warned that zwgc cannot start
> when the session starts up.

>   I prefer this behavior, because I do not think that zwgc should
> start up by default in a tty environment.  I find the tty zwgc to be a
> real pain in the butt, which is why I have not been using zwgc over
> the summer.  If we give zwgc a -ttymode option in the default file,
> then users (1) will be forced to set skip_tty_startup in order to
> prevent themselves from getting a zwgc (thus defeating the purpose of
> the fallback variable) (2) possibly never realize that they have the
> option of not having a zwgc when in tty mode.

I do not agree with the philosophy of blasting dialup users with an
error when they login.  I am suggesting that this be removed, since many
people do not wish to get Zephyr messages while dialed up (the user can
easily add this to .startup.tty).

-Richard

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