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Re: where to discuss non-bugs

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Henry Mensch)
Sun Aug 13 05:16:21 1989

From: Henry Mensch <henry@MIT.EDU>
To: Jonathan I. Kamens <jik@ATHENA.MIT.EDU>
Cc: bugs@ATHENA.MIT.EDU, geer@ATHENA.MIT.EDU, quality@ATHENA.MIT.EDU,
In-Reply-To: Your message of Sun, 13 Aug 89 02:27:22 -0400.
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 89 05:15:42 EDT

jik sez:
>if we are not supposed to discuss messages sent to bugs or to respond
>to them by sending mail to bugs, then how should we effectively
>discuss messages send to bugs, while making sure that the right people
>will see them?

something's wrong with this paragraph.  i don't care if you discuss
messages sent to bugs; i simply care *where* you do it.  

neither bugs nor testers are discussion lists (they are variations on
the same theme; the difference is that one is intended for problems
with production systems and one is intended for problems with test
systems).  these distinctions seem to have been blurred while i was
away.  i know at least one person will contest this notion; this is
not negotiable, however.  the information received in these ways is
used not only for the content, but for bug tracking purposes; adding
discussion to this simply gives robin and i more unnecessary work to
do.  having a small set of people respond to these items (particularly
when responses are going to non-staff persons) has its own set of
advantages which i won't discuss here.

i suggest that such discussions take place in athena-ws; this seems to
be the most appropriate forum (it is also widely read).  i would also
suggest that before you take any bug report to a discussion that you
ask the release engineers, robin, and i about it; this has the
potential to prevent heaps of flamage.

ideas presented in the last paragraph are (imho) a reasonable solution
for this problem.  however, i don't particularly give a stuff where
you discuss these things, as long as you don't do it on bugs or
testers.

-- henry
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