[16928] in Athena Bugs

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telnetd in 8.3

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Thomas H. Grayson)
Wed Jun 30 10:51:29 1999

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:51:13 -0400
From: "Thomas H. Grayson" <thg@MIT.EDU>

We've had a few problems with people telnetting into our workstations using 
the 8.3 release.  Sometimes (but not always), the home directory does not get 
attached.  The failure to add a user to the group file is a new problem.  As 
Joe Ferreira notes below, he is a member of too many groups for them all to be 
in his group list at once.  On Windows PCs we generally use Cygnus ktelnet (a 
freeware, open source, Kerberos 5 encrypted telnet package; see 
http://www.cygnus.com/techie/kerbnet/).  We've seen login problems on the 
workstations 'depot' and 'aalto'.

Lastly, we have also had problems forcing encrypted telnet sessions on the 
workstation 'pelli' (by adding the '-e' switch to the end of the telnetd line 
in /etc/athena/inetd.conf).  While HostExplorer and the Athena telnet programs 
seem to work OK, the Cygnus ktelnet will print a banner, then some garbage 
characters, then hang.  I saw similar behavior on 'aalto' (an 8.3 machine) and 
'charleseliot' (an 8.2 machine).  I realize the the Cygnus program is not a 
supported Athena application, but it works great when encryption is not 
required, and it's easier to use than HostExplorer.

Tom Grayson
x3-3535

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To: thg@MIT.EDU
Cc: karen@MIT.EDU
Subject: Aalto problems
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 16:53:42 -0400
From: Joseph Ferreira <jf@MIT.EDU>

Tom,
     Once again today, I couldn't authenticate when loging
into Aalto using cygnus v5.  This morning, I had no problem.
But now, I get:

- ------------------------------------------------------
Warning: Could not add you to group file

    aalto.mit.edu (SunOS release 5.6 Generic_105181-13) (pts/0)

What you type is protected by encryption.
login: jf
Password for jf: 
No directory /mit/jf!
Logging in with home = "/".
Last login: Tue Jun 29 16:41:15 from jfjr.ne.mediaon
Athena Server (sun4) Version 8.3.8 Tue Jun 22 01:43:37 EDT 1999
aalto.mit.edu# attach jf
jf: Could not look up Hesiod entry: Connection refused.
aalto.mit.edu# 
- ------------------------------------------------------

When I telnet from depot to aalto, I get:

- ------------------------------------------------------
depot.mit.edu:~ % telnet aalto
...trying Athena's default telnet options: "-axF"
Trying 18.89.0.41...
Connected to AALTO.MIT.EDU (18.89.0.41).
Escape character is '^]'.
[ Kerberos V5 accepts you as ``jf@ATHENA.MIT.EDU'' ]
[ Kerberos V5 accepted forwarded credentials ]
Warning: Could not add you to group file
What you type is protected by encryption.
No directory /mit/jf!
Logging in with home = "/".
Last login: Tue Jun 29 16:44:55 from jfjr.ne.mediaon
Athena Server (sun4) Version 8.3.8 Tue Jun 22 01:43:37 EDT 1999
aalto.mit.edu# exit
logout
Connection closed by foreign host.
depot.mit.edu:~ % fg
- ------------------------------------------------------

This happened for a time yesterday as well.  Do you 
suppose that this is some bug in the new release?
Is this some 'group file' bug related to the fact that
I'm in more than 14 groups?  Please pass this along
to whomever would be interested.

			-- Joe Ferreira

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