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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Kev)
Fri Aug 14 21:05:20 1998

From: Kev <klmitch@MIT.EDU>
To: bugs@MIT.EDU
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 21:05:16 EDT

System name:		x15-cruise-basselope.mit.edu
Type and version:	Ultra-5_10 8.2.9 (with mkserv)
Display type:		afb

What were you trying to do?
	log in

What's wrong:
	1) My initial xterm did not appear
	2) 'from' hung
	3) logout did not work

1) My initial xterm did not appear; as my initial emacs did, I was
able to poke about.  It was in the process table, but it hadn't
been displayed yet.  I've had similiar problems before, with starting
xterms from my windowmanager; they might show up after several
minutes, but that was not guaranteed...but if they were started from
a shell prompt, they'd show up immediately.

2) My .startup.X hung trying to do 'from -t -n'; I was able to
successfully run 'from -t' and 'from -t -n' from the prompt, however.
The fact that this was hung resulted in my initial exmh not appearing
(which is what I first observed; it was only after examining the
process table that I realized what was happening); this also, of
course, seems to have resulted in an Xsession hang, possibly related
to complaint 3.

3) Initially, I tried to execute logout using M-x shell-command in
emacs; when nothing happened, I started a shell and tried again.  Of
course, the result was a "no such process" message, as session_gate
presumably either did not get started or was properly killed by my
first 'logout' attempt.  I then attempted to kill Xsession directly
(it only just occurred to me that I should have also kill'd 'from');
initially, I just issued "kill <procID>".  When that did nothing, I
escalated, first issuing -TERM, then -HUP, then -SEGV; I finally
ended up doing a kill -9, which logged me off immediately.

It was mildly amusing, after all of this, when Xlogin started up...
followed by exmh :)  I was unable to reproduce the problem on
subsequent login attempts.

What should have happened:
	1) The xterm problem should not be occurring; next time I
see this behavior from my windowmanager, I'll try to strace it...
	2) 'from' should not have hung.
	3) 'logout' should have logged me out :)  (Maybe we need a
"logmeout-harder" alias?  ;)

Please describe any relevant documentation references:
	ya right.

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