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Re: Router filtering not enough! (Was: Re: CERT advisory )

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dave Mitchell)
Thu Jan 26 07:11:11 1995

Date: Thu, 26 Jan 95 10:09:13 GMT
From: Dave Mitchell <D.Mitchell@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
To: bugtraq@fc.net

"Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb@kryten.Atinc.COM> writes:
>On Tue, 24 Jan 1995, Jim Duncan wrote:
>
>> > As has been pointed out, only network or
>> > transport-level encryption will entirely block these attacks.
>> 
>> That's correct.  That and teach people the difference between identification
>> and authentication.
>
>	a filtering router is enough to prevent this attack from being 
>used from "the outside".

This is all well and good as long as there is a simple "inside"/"outside"
distinction. I am in this happy situation at the moment, and I have a filter
between my dept and the main campus which rejects external packets claiming
an internal src IP address. HOWEVER, I am likely to come under political
pressure soon to allow R-protocol, NFS, etc to a machine on the other
side of this filter. At which point my filter is virtually useless.

So I think its true to say that as a generalisation, encryption *is*
the only way to block attacks.


Dave.

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