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Re: set skip_foo; window managers

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Geoffrey Thomas)
Tue Dec 2 18:24:08 2008

Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:23:23 -0500 (EST)
From: Geoffrey Thomas <geofft@MIT.EDU>
To: Greg Hudson <ghudson@mit.edu>
cc: Jonathan Reed <jdreed@mit.edu>, athena10@mit.edu
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On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Greg Hudson wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 16:51 -0500, Jonathan Reed wrote:
>> If
>> we're going to punt skip_nautilus and skip_pannel, I think we should
>> also stop honoring WINDOW_MANAGER, and people should be forced to take
>> explicit action to re-customize their Athena 10 session.
>
> Does WINDOW_MANAGER still work in Athena 10?  We're certainly not
> honoring it through any of our own code, though it's conceivable that
> GNOME (or Ubuntu GNOME) is doing so.

Yep, it does. On my test VM, I'm in the unfortunate position of getting 
ratpoison attempting to manage a full GNOME desktop, and :quit in 
ratpoison doesn't quit my session but leaves me with no window manager.

I support not honoring WINDOW_MANAGER in general, since most people I know 
with custom WMs don't want GNOME (ratpoison, xmonad, ion3, twm/mwm). But 
there are window managers like Sawfish and apparently fvwm that work fine 
with GNOME.

Perhaps we just need to provide documentation for a standard GNOME-ish 
.xsession and a standard totally-non-GNOME .xsession.

---

Regarding Quentin's e-mail, that only affects window managers installed 
locally, not e.g. the windowmanagers locker. I have some code I keep 
forgetting to commit that suppresses the nonstandard dropdowns in that 
box, anyway.

-- 
Geoffrey Thomas
geofft@mit.edu

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