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Re: [DRAFT 2.1] [debathena-announce] End of life announcement for

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Evan Broder)
Wed Apr 8 16:26:20 2009

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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:25:42 -0400
From: Evan Broder <broder@MIT.EDU>
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To: Tim Abbott <tabbott@mit.edu>
CC: Anders Kaseorg <andersk@mit.edu>, Greg Price <price@mit.edu>,
   Debathena <debathena@mit.edu>
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Sounds good. Updated draft in just a moment.

- Evan

Tim Abbott wrote:
> OK, I would just have a very clean statement "Upgrading after end of life 
> is painful, we recommend doing upgrading now" and using a footnote to give 
> the technical details, if you want to include them at all.
>
> 	-Tim Abbott
>
> On Wed, 8 Apr 2009, Anders Kaseorg wrote:
>
>   
>> On Wed, 8 Apr 2009, Greg Price wrote:
>>     
>>>> Because Ubuntu typically removes unsupported releases from their apt
>>>> repository entirely, you should be sure to upgrade to a newer
>>>> release before April 18.
>>>>         
>>> In draft 1 you said this makes it difficult to upgrade after the
>>> date.  Is that right?  I don't see why, because I'd expect it to be
>>> taking packages only from the new release; I guess there's
>>> update-manager-core and friends, and I forget if those are always
>>> installed.
>>>       
>> Having gone through the process of upgrading an unsupported feisty machine 
>> to gutsy, I assure you that it is not fun at all.  The upgrader needs to 
>> download packages from both feisty-backports and gutsy, and there aren’t 
>> any mirrors that have them both (feisty-backports is on 
>> old-releases.ubuntu.com).  I ended up having to set up my own “mirror” 
>> using an Apache proxy, repointing us.archive.ubuntu.com to it in 
>> /etc/hosts, and switching over the pool/ directory at just the right time 
>> during the upgrade process.  Do not try this at home.
>>
>> Anders
>>     

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