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Re: [Debathena] #131: dvips uses a4 paper

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jonathan Reed)
Fri Apr 3 19:17:50 2009

Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 19:17:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jonathan Reed <jdreed@MIT.EDU>
To: Debathena Trac <debathena@mit.edu>
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> Ok. debathena-cluster now depends on debathena-tex-config, which should
> re-configure pdftex, dvips, and a few other utilities to generate letter
> documents by default. (change uploaded to -proposed)
>
> I still think that this is a package that wants to be in -standard or
> -clients, but I'm out of energy to fight for it.

I also think this should go into -clients ideally, since that's where most 
of the other debathena-foo-config clients are, most importantly the lprng 
and cups configuration.  If you're printing to the cluster printers, you 
(and everyone else trying to use that printer) will be very sad if you 
submit A4 jobs, since the printer will just sit there and complain.   We 
can debate ad nauseum whether or not the printers _should_ do this, but 
the fact is, they do.  We already get a bunch of A4 jobs at the beginning 
of each semester when the international students show up.  If every 
Debathena user starts printing A4 jobs, it's going to be extremely 
annoying for Support and Ops.

There seems to be some thought that the -clients metapackage contains some 
sort of implied "Touch my machine as little as possible" contract with its 
users.  If that's the intention of the developers, we should document that 
or something.

Ideally, this situation would be resolved by one of the following:
- It goes in -clients, and people who really really really want A4 paper 
can issue some sort of aptitude command to remove it and prevent it from 
being reinstalled?  (Is this possible with Recommends or Suggests or 
something?)
- It goes in -standard.  People who choose to run -clients are probably 
clever enough to figure out why their documents keep stalling on the 
printers.

-Jon

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