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Re: zephyr suggestions

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Marc Horowitz)
Wed May 27 17:04:38 1992

To: John Carr <jfc@Athena.MIT.EDU>
Cc: zephyr-comments@Athena.MIT.EDU, "James D. Zelenka" <jz1j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: [551] in Zephyr_Comments
Reply-To: Marc Horowitz <marc@MIT.EDU>
Date: Wed, 27 May 92 17:04:22 EDT
From: Marc Horowitz <marc@Athena.MIT.EDU>

>> One is to move the signature out of the message body and give it its own
>> field in the ZNotice structure.

I would agree, as john did.  Problem is, as you pointed out, that this
would be a protocol change, not a library change.

>> I also noticed that tabs and newlines must be handled specially (namely,
>> tabs are mapped to spaces, and newlines to/from NULLs) when sending and
>> receiving.

Well, tabs only need to be expanded if you are sending to zwgc.
Given, most people do.  The right answer here, IMHO, is to fix zwgc,
not everything else.  I don't understand your point about newlines vs
NULs.  I've never had such a problem.

>> Also, is there any estimate on when the next release will be?

What john said.  it should have been years ago.  What I'd recommend is
using whatever is in
/afs/rel-eng.athena.mit.edu/project/release/current/source/athena/athena.lib/zephyr.
That's usually the most recent stable stuff.

>> One more thing... I notice that some functions in libzephyr want to take
>> a port number to use, while others use the port number kept statically
>> within the library.

All the functions intended for clients which send zgrams use the port
set by ZOpenPort.  The subscription-handling functions take a port
number because many clients which do subscriptions actually do so on
behalf of the zwgc client, so you may need to pass the port number of
a different client to the library.  It appears that
ZRetrieveSubscriptions does not accept 0 as a default value; I would
consider this to be a bug.

>> BTW, zephyr is a great system... very popular here at CMU both andrew-
>> and cs-side.

We like it, too :-)

>> Any chance a contrib section could be included in the next zephyr
>> release? I'd be interested in seeing what other sites have been using it
>> for...

I think that would be an interesting idea.  I'd send mail to
zephyr-request to get on the zephyr@athena.mit.edu list, which is the
most widespread zephyr list, and ask there if people were interested.

		Marc

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