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Minutes of the DCE/MAN SuperSIG Meeting
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter_Oleinick@transarc.com)
Mon Nov 7 03:15:13 1994
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Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 17:42:16 -0500 (EST)
From: Peter_Oleinick@transarc.com
To: sig-dce@osf.org
04-Nov-1994
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Title: Minutes of the SuperSIG Oct/Nov, 1994 OSF DCE/MAN SIG meeting
From: Peter Oleinick
Transarc Corp.
(412) 338-4368
pno@transarc.com
The meeting of the DCE/MAN SIG was held on Oct. 31 and Nov. 1, 1994 at the
Newton, MA Mariott Hotel. The following is a summary of the SIG meeting
plenary session held on October 31.
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0. SuperSIG Attendees
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Count as of Thursday Oct 27:
258 attendees
36% - system vendors
6% - ISVs
30% - End users
19% - OSF
9% - Consultants
I'm sure there were more folks than this.
An observation and challenge: we need to focus on getting better
representation from the ISV community to attend meetings such as this.
This is everyone's responsibility but especially the
System Vendors, and the End Users. Tell your software partners/suppliers
that they should be attending these DCE meetings. We need them to get
the DCE `religion' if we are to see their products ported and interfaced to
the DCE. No better place to get a reading on the DCE market than at one of
our meetings.
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1. DCE Update (Joe Maloney)
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*Press Briefing on 1.1 on Nov. 1.
*Focus of DCE 1.1
Consolidated Admin, Security Enhancements, I18N.
*Pricing Focus
promote deployment, facilitate bundling, growing market for tools/apps
*New collateral
*DCE Developers Conference = 700 participants
3 more planned for 1995: 2 in US , 1 in Europe
*New Educational courses for DCE 1.1
Questions about the availability of the HP & DEC provided DCE RPC were asked.
See the OSF WWW page for info on availability of this software.
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2. 1.1 DCE Update (Maryanne Talpey)
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*It's done --
electronically available Nov 15
contact OSF at 617-621-7300
*What's there
+Cross Technology Improvements are complete with few exceptions
-improved serviceability
-I18N
-Code cleanup
+Improved/Simplified Administration
-dcecp
-dced
+Planned Features
-cell aliasing
-hierarchical cells
-subtree operations
-Extended Registry Attributes (ERA)
-delegation support
-auditing
-Generic Security Service API (GSSAPI)
-enhancements to GDS
-DTS remote administration
-performance improvements
-additional features not planned
secure NFS-DFS gateway
extended login
password expiration enforcement
password management
ACL manager library/backing store library
programming style guide
*How good is it?
+generally very good
+details in Quality Working Group
+no major regressions
+known problems documented
+unintegrated tree used for additional/important work/fixes
*What didn't make it?
+warranty patch(1.0.3/1.1 Security Migration and Transitive Trust)
-this will be provided free to all DCE 1.1 source licenses
-expected Q195
+see documentation for limitations on new features
+name space conventions -- planned for DCE 1.2
+DFS replace admin lists with ACLs -- planned for DCE 1.2
+THR SVC -- work available, possible for DCE 1.2
+DFS CLN, ubik SVC -- no plans
+IDL CLN -- no plans
+RPC Send Message Vectors (RFC 20) -- dropped
*Next Steps
+Prentice Hall documentation
+orderly transition to DCE 1.2 PSC
+continued 1.1 support via Systems Engineering
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3. DCE OMG Technical Update
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There was a presentation by Peter de Jong (HP) and Dave Hartspan (DEC) re:
the DCE-CIOP proposal to OMG. For those not aware of this issue see the
recent postings to sig-dce@osf.org as space doesn't permit a useful description
here. The bottom line is that a vote is now in progress to adopt a non-DCE
standard for CORBA V2 interoperability. Attendees decided to organize
a special BOF later on Monday
to plan and discuss organizing support for the DCE-CIOP proposal and more
specifically to defeat the current vote to accept the non-DCE compliant
proposal. Contact any of the following for further information:
Peter de Jong -- HP 508-436-5372
Dave Hartspan -- DEC
Reilly Hayes -- Merrill Lynch 212-236-9536
or use the following temporary email list:
omg-dce-advocacy@xaos.ml.com
OSF is putting together an "official" list. I believe its creation will be
announced in sig-dce@osf.org.
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4. DCE 1.2 Technical Update (Scott Wang)
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Scott gave us an update on the state of the DCE PST. Since a
detailed review of the technical content of DCE 1.2 (RFC 63) was scheduled
for Tuesday, Scott focused on the process discussion.
The End User Steering Committee
has endorsed the proposal. The OSF BoD endorsed the proposal.
The Joint-Development-Agreement is in its third revision and only small
items are still being worked out. IBM has been selected as the prime
contractor. The TPC had its second review of the contents. The project
management team is being formed. Planned availability for DCE 1.2
is December 1995.
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5. PST ROUNDTABLE: Discussion on Openness (PSC members)
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Representatives of the DCE PST sat on a panel to discuss the PST process
and specifically to address the need for a more open process that the
DCE community at large can participate in. Some of the key points of the
discussion were that the PSC did take as input those surveys and RFCs
that were available. This being the first PST, there would naturally be some
rough spots in the process that we can improve in future PSTs. There will
always be tension between the desire for openness and confidentiality of
sponsoring vendor's strategic directions. The best way to input into the
process is via specific RFCs that specify requirements. The SIGs and the
individual working groups should focus now on setting specific requirements
for the post-1.2 release of DCE.
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6. MICROSOFT TALK (Paul Leach)
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Paul, who's title is Distributed Broadband Systems Architect with
responsibility for the distributed object infrastructure to be used for
Microsoft's work to support to support the information highway, talked about
Microsoft and the DCE and the way they have based their object model
on the DCE.
In Windows NT 3.5 they have added/finished a
lot of functionality missing from the RPC they shipped last year. In Windows
95 the RPC runtime is in the box, is used for NT interoperability, and they
even have a MAC client for DCE RPC.
Half of the talk was about where Microsoft stands re: Objects. Their
Component Object Model (COM) is going to touch all software areas. Paul
described how COM sits on top of and uses RPC.
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7. WORKING GROUP MEETINGS
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Working Group Chairs will be posting minutes of the various meetings shortly.
One additional item: Working Group chairs please send your attendees list
to the OSF for them to update the sig-dce-xyz mailing lists.
The following groups met:
Working groups
Quality, DFS, DCE Naming, Deployment,
Business, Performance, and Object-Oriented,
I18N, L10N, Security, Documentation.
BOFs
Database, Management
Other
DCE RFC review, OMG DCE advocacy
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Next DCE/MAN SIG meeting will likely occur in the Feb/Mar timeframe.
I would like to schedule this meeting to be in the Silicon Valley
(California) and companies interested in hosting the meeting are
encouraged to volunteer. Please call me if you
are interested in hosting the 2 day meeting for about 100 people.
