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term limits, etc

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paddington Bear)
Tue Dec 6 17:07:24 1994

Date: Tue, 6 Dec 94 16:04:22 CST
From: Paddington Bear <deanjens@midway.uchicago.edu>
To: libertarians@MIT.EDU

>>1) proportional representation: if the Republicans receive 45% of the
>vote, the Dems get 45%, the Libs get 8%, and the Greens get 2%, then
>the represenative body is made up of 45% Reps, 45% Dems, etc.  This
>system is used in many of the democracies of Western Europe.  It
>hasn't led to a libertarian Utopia, but it is still an interesting
>system...

I dislike the idea of institutionalizing parties and eliminating
independents.  If this is done where all candidates go to Washington with a
fractional amount of vote, I'm still opposed, but not strongly and based
primarily on a gut feeling.  It would certainly complicate the system,
especially if you try to include term limits; would it count as .03 terms if
you only have .03 votes?

>The term limits idea is not so much about reducing the power of the
>>politicians as it is leveling it.  It allows the voters to have more
>fair representation as each district's legislator is more or less of
>the same order of power as everyone else's.  Yes, those who move
>up will keep their contacts and some clout, but they'll be at the
>bottom rung of any senority system.

If the problem is with the seniority system, should we just get rid of this? 
I dislike much of the House and (to a lesser extent) Senate systems of rules,
and this is high on my list of things to dislike.  

What purpose do term limits on the President serve?  I haven't made up my
mind yet on congressional term limits, but I oppose the limits on the
President; it reduces the power of the voter to choose who is to govern
him/her, without the leveling out that vimrich refers to.  (There's only one
president, unless you count Hillary :-)

	-Dean Jens

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