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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John T Kohl)
Thu Apr 2 20:09:31 1992

Date: Thu, 2 Apr 92 17:10:13 -0800
From: jtkohl@cs.berkeley.edu (John T Kohl)
To: krbdev@MIT.EDU

Potential interest.

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From: stephe@mks.com (Stephen Walli)
Subject: Report on POSIX Dist. Security Group, Jan. 1992
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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1992 05:17:19 GMT

Submitted-by: stephe@mks.com (Stephen Walli)

                      USENIX Standards Watchdog Committee
                Stephen Walli <stephe@usenix.org>, Report Editor

          Report on the POSIX Study Group on Distributed Security

          Laura Micks <uunet!aixsm!micks>  reports on the  January 15,
          1992 meeting in Irvine, CA:

          A study group has formed to investigate the feasibility of a
          project request (PAR) for Distributed Security.
 
          One of the  major topics raised  at the Distributed Services
          Steering Committee (DSSC)  was the problem  of Security in a
          Distributed environment.  This issue is not addressed by the
          Security working  group  (POSIX.6), nor  any of the  working
          groups under the DSSC.

          A  meeting  was  scheduled  for  all interested  parties  to
          discuss future  directions  in this  area. Approximately  20
          people attended and  the application was made to be approved
          as a Study  Group.  If approved, a Study Group can be funded
          (from  a  logistics  point  of  view)  to meet  for  several
          meetings without an  official PAR in place.  The group plans
          to meet for an entire week next meeting cycle.

          Most of  the  attendees were from  the Security and  Systems
          Management  groups.   Several  people attended  for  general
          interest.  It took the group quite some time to get rolling.
          There seemed  to be 2  camps:  one that  wanted to define  a
          conceptual model, identify  services required, etc., and the
          other that wanted  to pin down the existing implementations,
          choose one and tweek it where necessary.

          A PAR was  actually drafted in October 1991 by Data Logic on
          behalf  of  Petr   Janecek  of  X/Open.   The  PAR  was  not
          officially  submitted   to   the  POSIX  Sponsor   Executive
          Committee, probably  due  to potential  lack of support  and
          sponsorship within the  POSIX community.  The  draft of this
          PAR was copied and distributed to the study group.

          Known existing  projects  and organizations working  similar
          efforts were identified.   The known models  identified were
          as follows:

          -- Open   Software   Foundation's   Distributed   Computing
            Environment (DCE)
          -- NIS (Sun)
          -- ECMA TC46 Technical Committee on Security Framework
          -- ISO  7498-2  Security  Addendum  covering  Architectural
            Framework/Security Svcs
          -- The Andrew File System (AFS)
          -- Project Athena
          -- GSSAPI - A generic security API from DEC
          -- Project MAXSIX
          -- DNSIX - (Mitre)
          -- Netware
          -- GASSP  (Generally Accepted Security System Principles)
          -- U.S. Government OSI Profile (GOSIP)

          We  decided  to  further  the  study  by arranging  as  many
          presentations as feasible  from the list above for the April
          meeting.   The   meeting   agenda  will   be  to  hear   the
          architectural  presentations  on  security  models,  and  to
          determine  selection  requirements  for base  documents.   A
          thorough evaluation will be made at the July meeting.

          It is premature  to assess the viability of this study group
          becoming an actual POSIX committee.  The initial meeting was
          somewhat disorganized but  in all fairness, there was little
          or no  advance  notice of  this  group's meeting, hence  the
          attendees were  unprepared.   Given the  sensitivity of  the
          subject and  the obvious differences  of opinions raised  at
          the January  meeting,  I don't expect  that the exercise  of
          selecting a particular  model to be  used as a base document
          will be trivial.

          The next meeting  will be held  in conjunction with the next
          IEEE POSIX working group meetings:
          April 6-10, 1992,
          The Doubletree Dallas at Lincoln Centre,
          Dallas, TX.

Volume-Number: Volume 27, Number 61

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