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Re: kerberos security

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bill Sommerfeld)
Tue Apr 2 16:33:20 1996

To: Mark Eichin <eichin@maneki-neko.cygnus.com>
Cc: kerberos@MIT.EDU
In-Reply-To: eichin's message of 02 Apr 1996 14:37:32 -0500.
	     <xe1ag0u76yr.fsf@maneki-neko.cygnus.com> 
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 16:12:57 -0500
From: Bill Sommerfeld <sommerfeld@apollo.hp.com>

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Phil's write up is at http://www.qualcomm.com/people/pkarn/export/3des.html

   The NSA reps at an X9 meeting several years ago allegedly "promised"
   that 3DES would not be exportable; seems they're keeping that
   promise...

The actual message to X9 was a masterwork of obfuscation.
Phil Karn references a copy at:

http://lcs.www.media.mit.edu/people/foner/Yenta/NSA-Pans-3DES-for-Banks.html

   "We cannot vouch that any of the schemes for doubling the cryptovariable
    length of DES truly squares the security."

   "US export control policy does not allow for general export of DES
    for encryption, let alone triple-DES."

In other words, according to the NSA, DES**3 is simultaneously too
weak, and too strong..

						- Bill




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