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Athena question

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jamey Maze)
Wed Jan 8 15:55:47 1992

Date: 8 Jan 92 19:46:47 GMT
From: jnm@tdum.ctd.ornl.gov (Jamey Maze)
To: kerberos@shelby.Stanford.EDU


On 12/30/91, I posted the following question to this newsgroup:

>I'd like to hear from those of you who have went beyond X Windows and Kerberos 
>and have attempted to build your own Athena-like workstation management 
>environment. I'm not talking about DECathena. I mean you've got the MIT code, 
>ported it yourself, and are using it to some extent. I know UCSC did it. Anyone 
>else? I'd like to know how many people you had working on it, their skill 
>levels, and how long it took. Also, how you feel about it now...


Several of you asked that I post the results from this survey/question. The 
problem was I got few responses from folks who'd actually done their own port. I 
suppose the best info relating directly from the question was a pointer to the 
Champine book, which lists the following 

test sites
   UCSC
   NYU
   U of Tex at Austin

operational sites
   Bond U Australia
   U Mass Amherst
   Stanford
   No Carolina State
   Iowa State
   Nanyang Tech Inst, Singapore
   Royal Tech Inst of Sweden (KTH)

However, most of these sites are DECathena installations. Anyway, the book is
entitled "MIT Project Athena a Model for Distributed Campus Computing"; Digital
Press; ISBN 1-55558-072-6. There was one response from Indiana U. that said they were working on their own port, including non-UNIX platforms (DOS, Mac, VMS).



I would like to post a follow-on question raised by one of the managers here at
ORNL this morning. This question is for those of you who have experience trying
to sell the Athena workstation management model to users who have their own
private workstation. In your experience, what has been the most common reaction
from this type of user to their private workstation being configured and
centrally-managed according to the Athena model? The concern is that Athena may
sell well to students, but how does it sell to the staff members, the professors,
the researchers who have their own equipment and may fear that if they sign up, they may once again "loose control" of their computing environment...

Your input will be greatly appreciated. I know this is not the "comp.athena" 
newsgroup, but since there isn't one, this seemed like the next best place to ask 
the question. You may respond directly via E-mail and I'll summarize if there's 
sufficient info/interest...


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