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Re: MinK question
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Kris Nyzio)
Tue Mar 21 07:32:09 2000
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Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 07:32:06 -0500
To: Jonathan McIndoe Hunt <jmhunt@mit.edu>
From: Kris Nyzio <knyzio@MIT.EDU>
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The change has been made. Thanks so much for the clarification.
Kris
At 3:26 PM -0500 3/20/2000, Jonathan McIndoe Hunt wrote:
>I hope this will help to clarify.
>
>mink-10-18-99.exe is the filename of the current installer.
>Kerberos for Windows is the name of the product.
>2.0 is the current version number.
>
>10-18-99.exe does not exist.
>
>Please change the note to say:
>"This product was formerly referred to as MinK . If you have a version of
>Kerberos for Windows prior to 2.0, you should upgrade to the current
>version using the mink-10-18-99.exe installer. "
>
>
>Thanks,
>Jonathan
>
>At 02:40 PM 3/20/2000 -0500, Kris Nyzio wrote:
>>
>>MinK has been changed to Kerberos for Windows. The following text has
>>been added to the Special/News section: "This product was formerly
>>referred to
>>as MinK .
>>If you have an older version of Kerberos for Windows/MinK, you should
>>upgrade to Kerberos for Windows 10-18-99.exe now. " I agree with Mark
>>that we should not erase all mention of MinK because it might initially
>>confuse users. Hopefully the addition of this note is an acceptable
>>concession.
>>Kris
>>
>>
>>At 11:56 AM -0500 3/20/2000, Susan B. Jones wrote:
>>>Well the good news is if you look at the mink page, the title is changed,
>>>but they still have to install Mink (to get Kerberos for Windows).
>>>
>>>S.
>>>
>>>At 11:47 AM -0500 3/20/2000, Mark A. Van Dyke wrote:
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>I agree that "Kerberos for Windows" is a more consistent name.
>>>>However we've spent the last few years training the Windows users of
>>>>the MIT community that they need to install MinK to run various
>>>>applications. Changing the name without even a word to the various
>>>>help desks is likely to cause some initial confusion. Can we at least
>>>>include a footnote to say something like "Formally known as MinK"?
>>>>
>>>>Mark
>>>>
>>>>On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:04:52 EST you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Susan and Kris,
>>>>>
>>>>> When it first came out, mink stood for Minimum Kerbers Installer.
>>>>>Mink is
>>>>> the name for the installer. Please change the product name to "Kerberos
>>>>> for Windows." A new installer is not on the radar and changing the
>>>>>name of
>>>>> the installer at this point would cause too much confusion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Leash is one of four applications and a handful of dlls that make up
>>>>> Kerberos for Windows. I feel that Leash and the other three
>>>>>applications,
>>>>> Kview, Kdestroy, and Fleavius, should be included in the help
>>>>>documentation
>>>>> and not on the supported product sheets because it is too much
>>>>>information.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope this helps clarify.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>
>>>>> At 09:38 AM 3/20/2000 -0500, Susan B. Jones wrote:
>>>>> >Hi Kris,
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Well, I think Jonathan is right that "Kerberos Utilities for
>>>>>Windows" is a
>>>>> >much better name than MinK, however, since the download is called
>>>>> >"mink-10-9-98" or whatever, I would prefer to make the change when we
>>>>> >change the name of what the download is.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >I'm not sure why he doesn't want to mention that Leash is installed.
>>>>> >Perhaps he can explain.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Susan
>>>>> >
>>>>> >At 9:16 AM -0500 3/20/2000, Kris Nyzio wrote:
>>>>> > >Hi Susan,
>>>>> > >Jonathan Hunt has requested that MinK be changed to "Kerberos
>>>>>Utilities fo
>>>> *r
>>>>> > >Windows" on the new product support sheets. Before I make this
>>>>>change, I
>>>>> > >thought that I should consult you on it. He is also proposing that we
>>>>> > >remove the note stating that MinK also installs Leash. Sorry I can't
>>>>> > >forward you his actual comments, but I got all revisions in hard copy
>>>>> > >format.
>>>>> > >I'll wait to hear your thoughts on this before making the changes
>>>>>requeste
>>>> *d.
>>>>> > >Thanks,
>>>>> > >Kris
>>>>>
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The change has been made. Thanks so much for the clarification.
Kris
At 3:26 PM -0500 3/20/2000, Jonathan McIndoe Hunt wrote:
<excerpt>I hope this will help to clarify.
<bold>mink-10-18-99.exe</bold> is the filename of the current
installer.
<bold>Kerberos for Windows </bold>is the name of the product.
<bold>2.0</bold> is the current version number.
<italic>10-18-99.exe</italic> does not exist.
Please change the note to say:
"This product was formerly referred to as MinK . If you have a version
of Kerberos for Windows prior to 2.0, you should upgrade to the current
version using the mink-10-18-99.exe installer. "
Thanks,
Jonathan
At 02:40 PM 3/20/2000 -0500, Kris Nyzio wrote:
<excerpt>
MinK has been changed to Kerberos for Windows. The following text has
been added to the Special/News section: "This product was formerly
referred to
as MinK .
If you have an older version of Kerberos for Windows/MinK, you should
upgrade to Kerberos for Windows 10-18-99.exe now. " I agree with
Mark
that we should not erase all mention of MinK because it might
initially
confuse users. Hopefully the addition of this note is an acceptable
concession.
Kris
At 11:56 AM -0500 3/20/2000, Susan B. Jones wrote:
>Well the good news is if you look at the mink page, the title is
changed,
>but they still have to install Mink (to get Kerberos for Windows).
>
>S.
>
>At 11:47 AM -0500 3/20/2000, Mark A. Van Dyke wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>I agree that "Kerberos for Windows" is a more consistent name.
>>However we've spent the last few years training the Windows users of
>>the MIT community that they need to install MinK to run various
>>applications. Changing the name without even a word to the various
>>help desks is likely to cause some initial confusion. Can we at
least
>>include a footnote to say something like "Formally known as MinK"?
>>
>>Mark
>>
>>On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:04:52 EST you wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Susan and Kris,
>>>
>>> When it first came out, mink stood for Minimum Kerbers Installer.
Mink is
>>> the name for the installer. Please change the product name to
"Kerberos
>>> for Windows." A new installer is not on the radar and changing the
name of
>>> the installer at this point would cause too much confusion.
>>>
>>> Leash is one of four applications and a handful of dlls that make
up
>>> Kerberos for Windows. I feel that Leash and the other three
applications,
>>> Kview, Kdestroy, and Fleavius, should be included in the help
documentation
>>> and not on the supported product sheets because it is too much
information.
>>>
>>> I hope this helps clarify.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> At 09:38 AM 3/20/2000 -0500, Susan B. Jones wrote:
>>> >Hi Kris,
>>> >
>>> >Well, I think Jonathan is right that "Kerberos Utilities for
Windows" is a
>>> >much better name than MinK, however, since the download is called
>>> >"mink-10-9-98" or whatever, I would prefer to make the change when
we
>>> >change the name of what the download is.
>>> >
>>> >I'm not sure why he doesn't want to mention that Leash is
installed.
>>> >Perhaps he can explain.
>>> >
>>> >Susan
>>> >
>>> >At 9:16 AM -0500 3/20/2000, Kris Nyzio wrote:
>>> > >Hi Susan,
>>> > >Jonathan Hunt has requested that MinK be changed to "Kerberos
>>>Utilities fo
>> *r
>>> > >Windows" on the new product support sheets. Before I make this
>>>change, I
>>> > >thought that I should consult you on it. He is also proposing
that we
>>> > >remove the note stating that MinK also installs Leash. Sorry I
can't
>>> > >forward you his actual comments, but I got all revisions in hard
copy
>>> > >format.
>>> > >I'll wait to hear your thoughts on this before making the
changes
>>>requeste
>> *d.
>>> > >Thanks,
>>> > >Kris
>>>
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