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Re: MinK question

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jonathan McIndoe Hunt)
Mon Mar 20 15:31:06 2000

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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:26:52 -0500
To: Kris Nyzio <knyzio@mit.edu>, swrt@mit.edu
From: Jonathan McIndoe Hunt <jmhunt@MIT.EDU>
Cc: is-home@mit.edu, sbjones@mit.edu
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I hope this will help to clarify.<br>
<br>
<b>mink-10-18-99.exe</b> is the filename of the current installer.<br>
<b>Kerberos for Windows </b>is the name of the product.<br>
<b>2.0</b> is the current version number.<br>
<br>
<i>10-18-99.exe</i> does not exist.<br>
<br>
Please change the note to say:<br>
&quot;This product was formerly referred to as MinK . If you have a
version of Kerberos for Windows prior to 2.0, you should upgrade to the
current version using the mink-10-18-99.exe installer. &quot;<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Jonathan<br>
<br>
At 02:40 PM 3/20/2000 -0500, Kris Nyzio wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite cite>MinK has been changed to Kerberos for
Windows.&nbsp; The following text has been<br>
added to the Special/News section: &quot;This product was formerly
referred to<br>
as MinK .<br>
If you have an older version of Kerberos for Windows/MinK, you
should<br>
upgrade to Kerberos for&nbsp;&nbsp; Windows 10-18-99.exe now.
&quot;&nbsp; I agree with Mark<br>
that we should not erase all mention of MinK because it might
initially<br>
confuse users.&nbsp; Hopefully the addition of this note is an
acceptable<br>
concession.<br>
Kris<br>
<br>
<br>
At 11:56 AM -0500 3/20/2000, Susan B. Jones wrote:<br>
&gt;Well the good news is if you look at the mink page, the title is
changed,<br>
&gt;but they still have to install Mink (to get Kerberos for
Windows).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;S.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;At 11:47 AM -0500 3/20/2000, Mark A. Van Dyke wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;Hi,<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;I agree that &quot;Kerberos for Windows&quot; is a more
consistent name.<br>
&gt;&gt;However we've spent the last few years training the Windows users
of<br>
&gt;&gt;the MIT community that they need to install MinK to run
various<br>
&gt;&gt;applications.&nbsp; Changing the name without even a word to the
various<br>
&gt;&gt;help desks is likely to cause some initial confusion.&nbsp; Can
we at least<br>
&gt;&gt;include a footnote to say something like &quot;Formally known as
MinK&quot;?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;Mark<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:04:52 EST you wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi Susan and Kris,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; When it first came out, mink stood for Minimum Kerbers
Installer.&nbsp; Mink is<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; the name for the installer.&nbsp; Please change the product
name to &quot;Kerberos<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; for Windows.&quot; A new installer is not on the radar and
changing the name of<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; the installer at this point would cause too much
confusion.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Leash is one of four applications and a handful of dlls that
make up<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Kerberos for Windows.&nbsp; I feel that Leash and the other
three applications,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Kview, Kdestroy, and Fleavius, should be included in the
help documentation<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; and not on the supported product sheets because it is too
much information.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; I hope this helps clarify.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Jonathan<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; At 09:38 AM 3/20/2000 -0500, Susan B. Jones wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;Hi Kris,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;Well, I think Jonathan is right that &quot;Kerberos
Utilities for Windows&quot; is a<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;much better name than MinK, however, since the download
is called<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&quot;mink-10-9-98&quot; or whatever, I would prefer to
make the change when we<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;change the name of what the download is.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;I'm not sure why he doesn't want to mention that Leash
is installed.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;Perhaps he can explain.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;Susan<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;At 9:16 AM -0500 3/20/2000, Kris Nyzio wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;Hi Susan,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;Jonathan Hunt has requested that MinK be changed to
&quot;Kerberos<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;Utilities fo<br>
&gt;&gt; *r<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;Windows&quot; on the new product support
sheets.&nbsp; Before I make this<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;change, I<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;thought that I should consult you on it.&nbsp; He
is also proposing that we<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;remove the note stating that MinK also installs
Leash.&nbsp; Sorry I can't<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;forward you his actual comments, but I got all
revisions in hard copy<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;format.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;I'll wait to hear your thoughts on this before
making the changes<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;requeste<br>
&gt;&gt; *d.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;Thanks,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;Kris<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;</blockquote></html>


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