[1677] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Commercial traffic
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brian Lloyd)
Tue Dec 10 12:53:03 1991
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 91 09:50:21 PST
From: brian@lloyd.com (Brian Lloyd)
To: matsb@sics.se
Cc: bjp@sura.net, ari@viipuri.nersc.gov, schoff@psi.com,
In-Reply-To: matsb@sics.se's message of Tue, 10 Dec 91 12:59:05 +0100 <9112101159.AA26048@asia.sics.se>
Reply-To: brian@lloyd.com
The bottom line is that you DO NOT know what is commercial traffic and
what is not. Just because an organization is commercial does not mean
that traffic to/from that organization is commercial.
For instance: user A at company A send a file to user B at company B.
This is non commercial becuase it is in support of an educational or
government customer/client of company B. Now we do exactly the same
thing again, e.g., same users, same hosts, same networks, same file.
This is commercial traffic because now it is in support of a
commercial customer/client of company B.
This whole discussion is a monumental waste of time. It is based on
the premise that we are going to provide a technical solution to a
nontechnical problem. You are going to have the devil's own time
defining "commercial" from the point of view of a software/hardware
traffic filter so you can make routing decisions. This argument
strikes me as ludicrous as suggesting that we rid the oceans of
menacing nuclear submarines by draining the oceans. Let's get real.
Want a solution? Get rid of the acceptable use policy on the NSFnet
backbone and/or provide complete connectivity that bypasses the
NSFnet. Both are doable with current technology, and may be
accomplished within reasonable time and dollar budgets. (Actually
building a separate network may be cheaper/easier than changing policy
but that is another story.)
Perhaps we could talk the NSF into auctioning off the NSFnet. I am
sure that ANS, PSI, Alternet, CERFnet, and others would be interested
in bidding.
Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN Lloyd & Associates
Principal and Network Architect 3420 Sudbury Road
brian@lloyd.com Cameron Park, CA 95682
voice (916) 676-1147 -or- (415) 725-1392
