[11993] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Re: Invitation to participate in AADSnet
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joseph W. Stroup)
Fri Apr 29 04:12:32 1994
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 22:52:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Joseph W. Stroup" <nettech@crl.com>
To: Mark Knopper <mak@aads.net>
Cc: com-priv@psi.com
In-Reply-To: <199404290110.VAA07631@aads.com>
What a bunch of bullshit ! Do I feel a lawsuit or do I ? Go figure. I
have been waiting for your slime balls to come out into the light for
about a year now. Gee, I wonder if MSEN or IC.NET or any other smaller
company EVEN has a snowballs chance in hell of winning over the local
telco. This was a very planned deal. Maybe that is why Michigan Bell
/Ameri-Turd "failed to provide" quality services in a timely fashion to
customers that they (the BOC) did not want to compete with. ISDN delays,
Feature Group Excuses, Packet problems, Inter-Lata access hassles, on and
on. Why am I angry , because Ameritech has directly tried to impede the
progress of small to medium Internet providers. You connect this with the
crap that ANS and Merit are up to along with MCI , you end up with one
heck of a restraint of trade. I hope this gets forwarded direct to
Ameri-Slime HQ. as they will be hearing from my lawyers. Remember guys, I
only make promises. Hey Gordon Cook, Did you know that Merit has been
getting FREE SERVICES from the BOC in Michigan while others had to pay?
Sure have. Why the University of Michigan is A cute little Kingdom all
unto itself. How about that FREE FRAME Relay service ? Trial eh ? Gee,
why is it that other customers have to pay ?
This mess goes on and on but , I must say that what we are seeing he is
the Local Telco playing "Equal Access to Data" just like the LD companies
do in voice. I bet ANS, MCI and even Sprint and AT&T will be in this if
ther are not already. What a scam !!!
Gee, Mr. Stroup - Uh, we can't deliver ISDN to you 1000' from the CO and
connected by fiber, uh, well we have to have two dozen rep's and 5
meetings just to tell you that Centrex is a problem.
Look out Ameritech Stroup is on the way to court and ready for trial.
Note: This announcement by the phone company - your friend and mine is
just another way we can all look to get the shaft. Ameritech fails to
provide services for months, throws up numerous roadblocks in order to
enter the market themselves. Sounds sort of criminal to me......
More to come on this people.....
Joseph Stroup
On Thu, 28 Apr 1994, Mark Knopper wrote:
>
> Open Invitation to Internet Network Service Providers
>
> from Ameritech Advanced Data Services
>
>
> Mark Knopper
> April 28, 1994
>
>
> Ameritech Advanced Data Services (a subsidiary of Ameritech Corp.)
> is implementing Internet access network services within multiple
> local access and transport areas (LATAs). These services are
> collectively known as "AADSnet". We invite organizations to connect
> their networks to AADSnet in one or more LATAs in order to provide
> connectivity to inter-LATA transmission of Internet Protocol (IP)
> datagrams to serve AADSnet customers.
>
>
> AADSnet Service Description
>
> AADS intends to provide widespread access to the Internet for many
> users by offering multiple access types.
>
> AADSnet offers Internet Protocol (IP) routing service over multiple
> access types. Dedicated access types include private line DS0 through
> DS3, SMDS DS0 through DS3, Frame Relay DS0 or DS1 permanent
> virtual circuits, or ATM DS3 or OC3c. Dialup and switched access are
> provided via V.32bis modem and ISDN, using the point-to-point
> protocol (PPP).
>
> Customers connecting to AADSnet over dedicated access will be able
> to connect an office or enterprise network to the Internet. AADS will
> provide a complete customer service function, with services
> including network number assignment, assistance with application
> servers, and customer training.
>
> Dialup and ISDN access will be provided in each AADS-served LATA,
> allowing authenticated access to AADSnet. Initially, client-server
> access at the IP level will be provided. Over time, the service will be
> extended to provide "dumb" terminal interactive telnet, higher level
> shell and e-mail accounts, and other services.
>
>
> Carrier Selection and Equal Access
>
> It is the intent of AADS to provide open and non-discriminatory
> access to the global Internet for its customers. Within a LATA, AADS
> will provide complete interconnection. Packets will be transported by
> AADS at the IP-level between customer networks using any access
> method. However, AADSnet will not transport packets across LATA
> boundaries (i.e. AADSnet is an INTRA-LATA service only).
>
> In order to provide a complete service for customers, IP providers
> are invited to establish, at their own initiative and cost, access to
> AADSnet within LATAs. Participating IP providers making
> themselves known to AADS will be listed in informational materials
> provided to AADSnet customers establishing access within the LATA;
> and customers will be asked to make a choice of a Primary and a
> Secondary inter-LATA IP provider. AADSnet will provide an IP route
> mapping entry which directs traffic between customers and their
> inter-LATA provider of choice. The secondary choice will become
> active in the event of a network failure in either the AADSnet or the
> inter-LATA provider's network service. Participating providers will
> be able to furnish contact information and a service description to
> AADS, which can be passed along to AADSnet customers, in order to
> allow an informed choice of providers serving the LATA.
>
> It is expected that, in addition to the service fees that AADSnet
> customers will be charged for the Internet service within-LATA, the
> inter-LATA providers will also desire to charge a fee to the AADSnet
> customers who choose their services. AADS will facilitate this
> arrangement in several ways: (1) by providing an optional
> passthrough billing service; (2) by assisting a customer to establish a
> relationship with a provider if the customer so requests, and (3) by
> publications such as this one, which invite open participation by
> multiple carriers.
>
>
> Carrier Access, Price and Billing
>
> AADSnet customers may connect to the network using a variety of
> access methods at a variety of data rates. Inter-LATA IP providers
> are invited to connect using the same set of access methods, but with
> the expectation that a single access trunk will allow a provider to
> transport the traffic of a number of AADSnet customers. Therefore, it
> will be desirable for a participating provider to work with AADS to
> arrive at an expectation about the number of customers and their
> expected traffic load. A possible strategy, for example, would be to
> establish an SMDS DS3 access into a metropolitan area LATA to
> transport traffic of many customers connecting at DS1 rates. Another
> strategy would be to use a DS1 to carry multiple DS0 or 14.4Kbps
> dialup users' traffic out of the LATA.
>
> A portion of the AADSnet service fee to customers is to cover
> overhead incurred by AADS in providing network infrastructure
> needed to connect to multiple carriers. Similarly, the carrier is
> expected to pay an access and service fee to cover network circuits,
> switching costs, and router port costs for its access to AADSnet.
>
> AADS will provide an optional passthrough billing service which will
> allow the inter-LATA IP provider's charges to be passed to the
> customer in the same billing envelope as the intra-LATA AADSnet
> charges. Alternatively, the provider may bill the AADS customer
> directly. In the latter case, AADS will provide billing contact and
> addressing information to the provider.
>
>
> Contact
>
> Any IP providers wishing to participate in the AADSnet project
> should contact Mark Knopper at 313-913-0800 (fax 313-741-0129,
> email mak@aads.net).
>
