[11359] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Re: The whole CIX concept is flawed (as presented to the public at
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joseph W. Stroup)
Wed Mar 30 10:01:45 1994
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 08:56:01 -0800 (PST)
From: "Joseph W. Stroup" <nettech@crl.com>
To: Karl Denninger <karl@mcs.com>
Cc: Aaron Nabil <nabil@world.net>, nowhere@bsu-cs.bsu.edu, com-priv@psi.com,
doyle@icp.net
In-Reply-To: <m0plh3x-000BbRC@mercury.mcs.com>
Karl, I would suspect that you would have NOT gotten your circuit if you
said NO to the CIX. I also suspect that selling service under these terms
is a good way for an IXC to end up in court. The last thing I would do
right now would be to hassle anyone if I were selling IP services. I
would be quiet as a mouse and sell like hell. Its that "installed base"
that will get you everytime ! We do it right - we do it wrong but, we do
alot of it. That would be our motto.
Joseph Stroup
On Tue, 29 Mar 1994, Karl Denninger wrote:
> > >
> > > Why the anonymous posting ?
> > >
> > > Joseph Stroup
> >
> > Beacuse he's buying the "Internet Provider in a Box" service from Sprint
> > and isn't a CIX member. He doesn't want the CIX to find out and block
> > his traffic.
>
> Uh, if that's the case there may be another problem. I don't know what
> Sprint's position is today, but I can tell you that when we signed our
> transit deal with Sprint it was made rather clear that if we were doing
> resale they <strongly> recommended that we join the CIX.
>
> As I was intending to do so anyway, this was something that took all of
> about 10 seconds of both of our time. I have no idea what would have
> transpired between Bob Doyle and I if I had said "no" to the request.
>
> Perhaps Sprint can clarify -- is this an actual <requirement>, or is
> it a <suggestion>? :-)
>
> >From my perspective it doesn't matter, since I happen to think that the
> value for money spent ratio is excellent.
>
> > I'll post a list of AS's Sprint is transiting when I get a chance and leave it
> > as an excerise to the reader to figgure out which one he is. It may have to
> > wait till I get back from Seattle.
> >
> > -a
>
> That would be interesting.
>
> CC'd to Bob Doyle.
>
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