[11329] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Re: The whole CIX concept is flawed (as presented to the public at
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Karl Denninger)
Tue Mar 29 10:43:50 1994
From: karl@mcs.com (Karl Denninger)
To: nowhere@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Anonymous)
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 18:07:11 -0600 (CST)
Cc: com-priv@psi.com
In-Reply-To: <9403281520.AA20498@bsu-cs.bsu.edu> from "Anonymous" at Mar 28, 94 10:20:04 am
> Morten Reistad <mrr@galba.boers.no> writes:
> >I am amazed at the abuse directed at the CIX here.
> >The CIX was never anything else than a routing peer of
> >last resort, i.e. somewhere you can talk to other
> >ip-providers without a lot of bargining and settlements.
> >As far as I know the CIX has only once had a connection-
> >fight, and that was with ANS some months back. ANS is
> >not excatly a "small startup" in my book.
>
> The point isn't what CIX has been, but what people are giving the
> impression it is now. It has been giving many people the impression that it
> may possibly cut off routing if they don't join. MUCH of the discussion
> here lately has been about what an Internet Reseller is, ie. who needs to
> join the CIX. Persumably the reason people need to figure out who NEEDS to
> join the CIX, rather than letting it be voluntary, is to make sure they
> don't get cut off. Perhaps CIX won't start cutting people off, but that is
> the impression it is giving to many people, which is what I wanted
> clarified concretely one way or the other.
Nonsense.
I've said this a few thousand times, and I'll say it once more:
NOTHING in the CIX Agreement is a negative obligation that leads to
the <CIX> cutting people off.
What has been said is that the providers, unless they're CIX members, MAY
cut people off at their discretion.
> The network will grow through alot of grass roots providers, so we wish to
> make sure they don't have problems and can get on with building the
> network.
The problem is, as I see it, that those "grass roots" providers want
something for nothing. Can't happen in the real world.
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