[11162] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Re: ANS and the CIX - have they really connected?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Karl Denninger)
Wed Mar 23 15:04:56 1994
From: karl@mcs.com (Karl Denninger)
To: NORDLUND@ukanvm.cc.ukans.edu (Dave Nordlund)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 18:33:45 -0600 (CST)
Cc: karl@mcs.com, com-priv@psi.com
In-Reply-To: <m0pjFuY-000BbYC@mercury.mcs.com> from "Dave Nordlund" at Mar 22, 94 05:22:51 pm
> On Tue, 22 Mar 1994 00:37:53 -0600 (CST) you said:
> >Hi Doug,
> >
> >
> >In other words, you take <packet> data and convert the format. My, doesn't
> >that look an awful lot like using SOCKS to evade the same issue.
> >
> >You didn't source the packets. Your customers did. That still loses in my
> >interpretation, and I suspect that of many other CIX members (but I don't
> >presume to speak for them).
> >
> If my customer is using my IP number from a Shell account to do a Telnet,
> is that different from my customer using my IP number from my terminal server
> running SLIP?
> We swallow the camel and gag on the fly!
>
> >The <protocol> isn't the point. The fact that you're routing <packets> for
> >them is, and that they originate those packets.
> >
> They originate the packets whether they are SLIP or SHELL connected!
Look, if you want to battle semantics then I'm out of this discussion. We
don't have a common language any longer, and this is not productive.
I think you're well aware of the differences here, and are just grasping at
strawmen trying to find a way to knock down an agreement that you don't
like.
The fact is, there is nothing more or less legit about this distinction
than any other. If you feel that the CIX is somehow "wrong headed" then
form your own trade association, sign up the members, and do your think.
If it makes sense for MCSNet to join I will do so. If it does not then I
won't.
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