[11066] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Re: Background and history of the CIX?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Sean Doran)
Sun Mar 20 03:16:40 1994
To: com-priv@psi.com
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 18 Mar 1994 16:55:49 PST."
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 14:02:45 -0800
From: Sean Doran <smd@cesium.clock.org>
In msg <m0phpKP-000BbeC@mercury.mcs.com> Karl Denninger writes:
| Where did the packet originate? On your desktop
| Who routed it? Your provider
| That's IP resale.
The working definition I used while I was still with UUNET Canada
ran something like this:
If the datagrams moving up and down the wire between
UUNET Canada and another organization all originate
from or are destined to machines that are owned by
the organization, the organization is a simple customer.
Otherwise, the organization is downstreaming IP.
If the organization is downstreaming IP and charges
money to do so, it's an IP reseller.
UUNET Canada was (and probably still is) rather relaxed about
downstreaming IP; some of their customers downstream to their staff's
homes (some of whom have extensive LANs) and so forth.
We talked to a number of organizations about reselling IP, and
generally got stuck on the problems of who's liable for what, and how
to guarantee a minimal additional technical support burden on our end.
Although bandwidth in Canada is considerably more expensive than in
the U.S. (by an order of magnitude or so), pushing everyone there
towards overcommitting backbone capacity, bandwidth availability was
never really an issue for either party.
Sean.
