[10969] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Re: ANS and the CIX - have they really connected?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Richard Mandelbaum)
Wed Mar 16 23:01:36 1994
To: Ittai Hershman <ittai@ans.net>
Cc: com-priv@psi.com
In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 16 Mar 94 16:54:42 -0500.
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 94 23:02:00 -0500
From: Richard Mandelbaum <rma@photon.poly.edu>
Lety me see if I understand this.
According to the letter that you received from the CIX if a University
bought service from ANS and then sold or gave away SLIP access to its
alumni then the CIX would not accept packets from that University's alums
Similarly if a University gave access to a community net work or a FREENET
then the University would be in the position of being a resleer and thus
be denied CIX access?
Is that really how the CIX is interpreting its regs?
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Which leaves me with the question: Hey, ANS, what's holding things
up?
Why aren't there routes to your commercial customers in the CIX?
Erik E. Fair apple!fair fair@apple.com
Erik,
We asked for clarification from the CIX Association on its policies
regarding connectivity among CIX Members and ANS commercial customers,
so that we can properly observe its rules and regulations. The
relevant excerpts from our letter (sent on 1/7/94) are:
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[...]
There is an apparent discrepency between paragraphs 9 and 10 of
the CIX Association membership agreement we signed on 19 November
1993 and the enclosed "working definition" which you e-mailed me
on 30 November 1993. We request clarification with respect to
this so-called "backdoor" issue. Specifically, may a CIX member
announce to the CIX the routes of, and will the CIX pass traffic
to and from, a third party service provider who is not a CIX
member?
[...]
Some of our customers have asked us questions relating to these
issues and we are unprepared to respond. Therefore, I would
appreciate a timely response to this letter.
[...]
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 21:36:27 -0700
To: ittai@ans.net
From: washburn@cix.org (Bill Washburn)
Subject: working definition
Ittai--
Here's a working definition... Bill
All customers of a standard CIX member have access to the CIX
except for "resellers" of IP service. "IP service" is defined as
direct TCP/IP access to the Internet with the assigning of a IP
network number to an individual or organization. As such any
customer of a CIX member who is an IP reseller will not have
access to the CIX for itself or for the indviduals or organization
s
it provides service to.
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We have not yet received a reply.
-Ittai
