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Re: XP and bridged miniports

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (King, Michael)
Fri Feb 1 10:23:53 2002

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Actually, I think he Meant the IEEE registered companies.  There are lists
out there:  http://standards.ieee.org/regauth/oui/oui.txt
<http://standards.ieee.org/regauth/oui/oui.txt>  for one.

I use a similar script that you do (Southwestern's NetReg,
http://www.NetReg.org <http://www.NetReg.org> ) I think it would be simple
to throw a statement in there that if it Match's this list, continue, if no
match, Complain.

Mike King

-----Original Message-----
From: Paula Maxwell [mailto:pmaxwell@SYR.EDU]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 9:53 AM
To: RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu
Subject: Re: XP and bridged miniports



Our DHCP server dynamically assigns IP addresses to registered Ethernet
Adapters.  Unregistered users can only load our registration web page.  This
is what is happening to registered XP users when their current valid IP
lease expires.

>>> eric@ROSENBERRY.ORG 01/31/02 09:14PM >>>
Where do you get the list of registered prefix's?

Do you implement this with your DHCP server software or with your
registration system?

-Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: Resnet Forum [  <mailto:RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu]>
mailto:RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Martin
Manjak
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 1:56 PM
To: RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu
Subject: Re: XP and bridged miniports

We've overcome the miniport issue by only allowing
MAC addresses of NICs registered with the IEEE to
register (i.e., receive IPs from the DHCP server).

This has caused some fall-out with students using
cheap cards, but for the most part we've managed to
convince them that it's worth the extra $20-30 to have
a card that satisfies the IEEE's Ethernet standards.

(Interestingly enough, some Dell systems were caught with
cheap chip sets that weren't registered with the IEEE.)

Students get a message advising them of the problem
and how to correct it when they try to register their
systems with us. If its an XP system, they call the Help
Desk and we make an appointment to send an RNC
to their room to disable the bridging.

Martin Manjak
Director, Residential Network
University at Albany


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patrick Aland [  <mailto:paland@STETSON.EDU]>
mailto:paland@STETSON.EDU]
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:40 PM
> To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: Re: [resnet-l] Re: XP users not renewin IP's
>
>
> We are seeing a ton of machines with MACPort mini bridges
> installed that
> are causing us havoc. Mostly new Dell laptops but we've seen a few
> desktops. If you remove the mini bridge (from the network
> control panel) it starts working fine.

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<DIV><SPAN class=677241015-01022002><FONT face=Arial size=2>Actually, I think he
Meant the IEEE registered companies.&nbsp; There are lists out there:&nbsp; <A
href="http://standards.ieee.org/regauth/oui/oui.txt">http://standards.ieee.org/regauth/oui/oui.txt</A>&nbsp;for
one.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=677241015-01022002><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=677241015-01022002><FONT face=Arial size=2>I use a similar
script that you do (Southwestern's NetReg, <A
href="http://www.NetReg.org">http://www.NetReg.org</A>) I think it would be
simple to throw a statement in there that if it Match's this list, continue, if
no match, Complain.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=677241015-01022002><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=677241015-01022002><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mike
King</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=677241015-01022002><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Paula Maxwell
[mailto:pmaxwell@SYR.EDU]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 01, 2002 9:53
AM<BR><B>To:</B> RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: XP and bridged
miniports<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Our DHCP server dynamically assigns IP addresses
  to registered Ethernet Adapters.&nbsp; Unregistered users can only load our
  registration&nbsp;web page.&nbsp; This is what is happening to registered XP
  users when their current valid IP lease expires.<BR><BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;
  eric@ROSENBERRY.ORG 01/31/02 09:14PM &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>Where do you get the list
  of registered prefix's?<BR><BR>Do you implement this with your DHCP server
  software or with your<BR>registration
  system?<BR><BR>-Eric<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Resnet Forum
  [</FONT><A href="mailto:RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu]"><FONT face=Arial
  size=2>mailto:RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu]</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2> On
  Behalf Of Martin<BR>Manjak<BR>Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 1:56 PM<BR>To:
  RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu<BR>Subject: Re: XP and bridged miniports<BR><BR>We've
  overcome the miniport issue by only allowing<BR>MAC addresses of NICs
  registered with the IEEE to<BR>register (i.e., receive IPs from the DHCP
  server).<BR><BR>This has caused some fall-out with students using<BR>cheap
  cards, but for the most part we've managed to<BR>convince them that it's worth
  the extra $20-30 to have<BR>a card that satisfies the IEEE's Ethernet
  standards.<BR><BR>(Interestingly enough, some Dell systems were caught
  with<BR>cheap chip sets that weren't registered with the
  IEEE.)<BR><BR>Students get a message advising them of the problem<BR>and how
  to correct it when they try to register their<BR>systems with us. If its an XP
  system, they call the Help<BR>Desk and we make an appointment to send an
  RNC<BR>to their room to disable the bridging.<BR><BR>Martin
  Manjak<BR>Director, Residential Network<BR>University at
  Albany<BR><BR><BR>&gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>&gt; From: Patrick Aland
  [</FONT><A href="mailto:paland@STETSON.EDU]"><FONT face=Arial
  size=2>mailto:paland@STETSON.EDU]</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>&gt;
  Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:40 PM<BR>&gt; To:
  RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: [resnet-l] Re: XP users not
  renewin IP's<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; We are seeing a ton of machines with
  MACPort mini bridges<BR>&gt; installed that<BR>&gt; are causing us havoc.
  Mostly new Dell laptops but we've seen a few<BR>&gt; desktops. If you remove
  the mini bridge (from the network<BR>&gt; control panel) it starts working
  fine.<BR><BR>___________________________________________________<BR>You are
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