[478] in resnet
Re: Keeping traffic internal
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bradley J Johnson)
Sat Dec 1 11:25:03 2001
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Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 10:24:21 -0600
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From: Bradley J Johnson <johnsbra@UWPLATT.EDU>
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I am not so sure that education to residents is all a bad idea. A lot
of the residents using these programs don't know what the potential is
for disaster. Tell them that they could be sued by a record company,
tell them that someone could worm into their computer and delete there
English papers, tell them that it slows down there computer, tell them
it slows down the internet. There are sooo many other things that
fthese file sharing services do. I think if you tell them what can
happen, a good amount of them will be scared if nothing else, into
uninstalling the programs...
Bradley J Johnson
University of Wisconsin - Platteville
ResNet
-----Original Message-----
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Hsu,
Mike
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 11:52 PM
To: RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu
Subject: Re: Keeping traffic internal
Very interesting yet very dangerous. Though it seems a bit
counterproductive and hypocritical to me.
"Students and all other Stanford community users are required to comply
with
our computer usage policy that prohibits unauthorized copying of
copyrighted
materials,"
Everybody knows exactly what gnutella is used for and it sure ain't for
sharing non-copyrighted material. Stanford, by putting up this gnutella
server, is in essence condoning the acts of "unauthorized copying of
copyrighted materials."
The solution that stanford university is presenting is not a solution at
all. In ResNet we need to stop thinking short term solution and start
thinking long term solution. Gnutella server = short term time bomb.
NAT/Trafficshaping = longer term solution. Oh yeah and Education to
residents != solution. A lot of people have been using packeteer
successfully, why isn't stanford doing something like that instead of
putting up a server? They don't even need to buy packeteer. Packeteer
does
what any cisco router can do.
Also how does a solution such as stanford's affect other resnets when
students from other universitys hear about it? "Stanford allows and
condones filesharing, what's up with my resnet capping kazaa and
gnutella to
5mbit a sec?" I think it brings ResNet as a whole down one notch. Am I
angry? no. Am I annoyed? yes.
Just my two cents,
Michael Hsu
ResNet Computing
UC Riverside
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stan North Martin [mailto:stan_martin@NCSU.EDU]
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 9:19 AM
> To: RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu
> Subject: Keeping traffic internal
>
>
> How many other campuses have set up their own Gnutella
> servers in an effort
> to keep more traffic off of the commodity Internet?
>
> Ethan, Rich and company at Stanford's ResComp have apparently
> done that:
> http://daily.stanford.edu/daily/servlet/Story?id=7139§ion=
News&date=11-28-2001
(The article was noted in the Chronicle of Higher Ed's Technology web
section.)
Any comments guys on how it's working out?
Stan
Stan North Martin stan_martin@ncsu.edu
ResNet Coordinator, Information Technology (919) 515-1348
North Carolina State University
http://www.ncsu.edu/resnet
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