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Re: Survey on ResNet Services
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Osborne, Bruce W)
Fri Nov 2 11:53:40 2012
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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 15:50:10 +0000
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From: "Osborne, Bruce W" <bosborne@liberty.edu>
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At Liberty University, we reclaimed dorm switches and only connected ports on request several years ago. We reclaimed over $500,000 in switch hardware which were deployed in new projects elsewhere.
As students use more and more wireless resources, we are getting to the point where we may need to readjust some wireless areas to increase coverage & capacity. We also have a couple of residence areas that are wireless-only.
Bruce Osborne
Network Engineer
IT Network Services
(434) 592-4229
LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
Training Champions for Christ since 1971
-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Voelker [mailto:avoelker@email.wcu.edu]
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: Survey on ResNet Services
I have heard some institutions installing the wiring for every room, but then only putting in minimal switching equipment. Then they rely on user request to activate and patch that port to a real switch. If you don't request it, you don't get it. I means fulfilling requests and possibly changing out equipment once in a while, possibly creating a mess. However, it might save money on the equipment at least.
If you're doing this or considering it, why don't you chime in and tell us about the cost/benefit?
-- Andy Voelker
Manager of Student Computing in the Technology Commons WCU Staff Senator, UNC Staff Assembly Western Carolina University
-----Original Message-----
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Derek Buchanan
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 9:37 AM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: Survey on ResNet Services
We have gotten that argument too here at Mary Baldwin. The problem is when the timeline gets closer to the mid-semester and the student population all want their Facebook, WOW, and Xboxes. Most find out pretty quickly that network cables are cheaper than the cost of their frustrations. If the person is merely checking e-mail or reading webpages for news, research, etc. then wireless speed is not that big a factor. However our gamers, streaming video addicts, and the power Facebook users are not going for it and granted these are the more online intensive users. You have to understand that your home network with fewer than 10 people is vastly different than a wireless network shared with 600 on-campus students, and then you have the potential of Fac/Staff on that connection. We treat wireless as a convenience technology, not an always on service like the wired network.
Derek
Mary Baldwin College
P.S.
Until recently, we were only on a 50MB connection that was upgraded to 100MB. We have not dropped below 97% usage during school sessions.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Duffin, Gregory J <DUFFIN001@gannon.edu> wrote:
> The problem with the wired connection is 98% of our students won't use it.
> We had every room wired and the students still wanted wireless. Waste
> of money to keep installing network jacks and switches when there not
> being used. We even explained how wireless works and why it is slower
> and they basically refused to use the wired. Their statements are
> that they use wireless at home and it works great there.
>
>
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
> Greg Duffin
>
> Systems Manager
>
> Information Technology Services
>
> Gannon University
>
> 109 University Square
>
> Erie, PA 16541
>
> (814) 871-7583
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