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Re: Zero Config Printing
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Richard Musal)
Tue Sep 18 17:48:39 2012
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Cool thanks to everyone. Papercut is still on my list to investigate.
Please keep the ideas coming.
Much appreciated.
Rich
________________________
Richard A. Musal
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 18, 2012, at 5:42 PM, "Soyez-Miller, Clyde D" <
ClydeMiller@missouristate.edu> wrote:
Hello,
If you were looking for something web-based, you could consider PaperCut=92=
s
webprint: http://www.papercut.com/tour/web-print/
We investigated it about a year ago(we already used PaperCut), but it
couldn=92t handle our coversheets. If it were in a lab where the student
would pick the print up immediately, it wouldn=92t have been the hurdle it
was for us.
Good luck,
Clyde
Clyde Soyez-Miller
ResNet <http://resnet.missouristate.edu/> Administrator, Residence Life,
Housing and Dining Services, Missouri State University
*ClydeMiller@missouristate.edu*| 417.836.6100 | 417.837.2327 (fax)
*From:* Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Brian
Gibson
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 18, 2012 8:39 AM
*To:* RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
*Subject:* Re: Zero Config Printing
Are you still talking about their jobs going through your print servers? If
so and the students have PCs the least amount of steps "I think" you can
narrow it down to is by doing the following...
1. Enabled the local "Guest" account on your Windows print server (since
the student machines are most likely not in your domain they will need the
guest account enabled to send the jobs over via Windows File and Print
Sharing.)
2. Speaking of Windows File and Print Sharing, make sure those firewall
ports are open on your Windows print server (most likely already are).
3. It's best if you can get like-printers across campus (example, all Xerox
Phasers or all HP Laserjet 4100's etc...) that will use the same driver,
that way once the student has the driver installed once they will no longer
need that step one the second/third/subsequent print queues they connect to=
,
4. Make sure you have both the Windows 32 bit and 64 bit drivers available
for your print queues (this can be a pain, I'd suggest setting up a 64 bit
windows 2008 print server and use a 32 bit Windows 7 machine to upload the
32 bit drivers using the print management tool. Note, to do this the
Windows 7 32-bit machine needs to have the same local Administrator
password as the print server, or, you can probably log in as the domain
admin on the 32 bit laptop to do it. There are a few other tricks to
getting the 32 bit drivers up there, if you run into issues shoot me an
email).
5. Share out the print queue(s)
6. On the student computer, all they need to do to connect to a print queue
and have it pull down the driver is go to "Start" -> "Run" and type in
\\printserver-name <file:///\\printserver-name>
and hit enter, once they see the queue they want they just double click on
it. If they do not have the proper driver for that queue it will ask if it
is okay to install it.
If you have Macs that you need to support you can either have them use
Windows File/Print Sharing (samba under the hood I believe) to connect to
your Windows print server, or, you can enable the LPR daemon on the Windows
print server (I think it is called Unix Printing under the options) and
have the Macs use the LPR protocol. The Macs will not receive the drivers
from the print server like the Windows clients will, they need the drivers
installed locally. There might be a Mac-print-server way of doing it
cleanly but I am not sure.... not a Mac user.
Hope this helps.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Brian Gibson
Systems Administrator
Wheaton College
Are you a musician? If so visit my Arbans Online music site at
http://arbansonline.com and listen & contribute
On 9/17/2012 4:48 PM, Richard Musal wrote:
Hello All
I am looking for a zero config printing solution for my public printers.
So a student walks into a computer lab on campus with their personal laptop
and they wirelessly connect to the printer without installing any drivers
and print their document. Perhaps this is done via a website or an email
address? Anyone doing something like this?
Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome.
Rich
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*Assistant Director of Client Services & Operations/Adjunct Professor of CI=
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Riverdale, NY 10471
Phone: 718-862-7933
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<html><head></head><body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div>Cool thanks to everyone. =
Papercut is still on my list to investigate. Please keep the ideas coming.=
=A0</div><div>Much appreciated.=A0</div><div>Rich=A0<br><br><div>__________=
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<div>Richard A. Musal</div>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Sep 18, 201=
2, at 5:42 PM, "Soyez-Miller, Clyde D" <<a href=3D"mailto:Clyd=
eMiller@missouristate.edu">ClydeMiller@missouristate.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">If you were looking for s=
omething web-based, you could consider PaperCut=92s webprint: </span><a hre=
f=3D"http://www.papercut.com/tour/web-print/">http://www.papercut.com/tour/=
web-print/</a></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f4=
97d">We investigated it about a year ago(we already used PaperCut), but it =
couldn=92t handle our coversheets.=A0 If it were in a lab where the student=
would pick the print up immediately, it wouldn=92t have been the hurdle it=
was for us.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
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L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brian Gibson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 18, 2012 8:39 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"m=
ailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU">RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU</a><br><b>Subject:=
</b> Re: Zero Config Printing</span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">
=A0</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Are you still talking about their jobs g=
oing through your print servers? If so and the students have PCs the least =
amount of steps "I think" you can narrow it down to is by doing t=
he following...<br>
<br>1. Enabled the local "Guest" account on your Windows print se=
rver (since the student machines are most likely not in your domain they wi=
ll need the guest account enabled to send the jobs over via Windows File an=
d Print Sharing.)<br>
<br>2. Speaking of Windows File and Print Sharing, make sure those firewall=
ports are open on your Windows print server (most likely already are).<br>=
<br>3. It's best if you can get like-printers across campus (example, a=
ll Xerox Phasers or all HP Laserjet 4100's etc...) that will use the sa=
me driver, that way once the student has the driver installed once they wil=
l no longer need that step one the second/third/subsequent print queues the=
y connect to,<br>
<br>4. Make sure you have both the Windows 32 bit and 64 bit drivers availa=
ble for your print queues (this can be a pain, I'd suggest setting up a=
64 bit windows 2008 print server and use a 32 bit Windows 7 machine to upl=
oad the 32 bit drivers using the print management tool. Note, to do this th=
e Windows 7 32-bit machine needs to have the same local Administrator passw=
ord as the print server, or, you can probably log in as the domain admin on=
the 32 bit laptop to do it. There are a few other tricks to getting the 32=
bit drivers up there, if you run into issues shoot me an email).<br>
<br>5. Share out the print queue(s)<br><br>6. On the student computer, all =
they need to do to connect to a print queue and have it pull down the drive=
r is go to "Start" -> "Run" and type in<br><br><a hr=
ef=3D"file:///\\printserver-name">\\printserver-name</a><br>
<br>and hit enter, once they see the queue they want they just double click=
on it. If they do not have the proper driver for that queue it will ask if=
it is okay to install it.<br><br>If you have Macs that you need to support=
you can either have them use Windows File/Print Sharing (samba under the h=
ood I believe) to connect to your Windows print server, or, you can enable =
the LPR daemon on the Windows print server (I think it is called Unix Print=
ing under the options) and have the Macs use the LPR protocol. The Macs wil=
l not receive the drivers from the print server like the Windows clients wi=
ll, they need the drivers installed locally. There might be a Mac-print-ser=
ver way of doing it cleanly but I am not sure.... not a Mac user.<br>
<br>Hope this helps.</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>+++++++++++++++++++=
+++++++++<br>Brian Gibson<br>Systems Administrator<br>Wheaton College<br><b=
r>Are you a musician? If so visit my Arbans Online music site at <a href=3D=
"http://arbansonline.com">http://arbansonline.com</a> and listen & cont=
ribute</p>
</div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 9/17/2012 4:48 PM, Richard Musal wrote:</p>=
</div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">Hello All<br>I am looking for a zero config printing solutio=
n for my public printers.=A0 So a student walks into a computer lab on camp=
us with their personal laptop and they wirelessly connect to the printer wi=
thout installing any drivers and print their document.=A0 Perhaps this is d=
one via a website or an email address?=A0 Anyone doing something like this?=
<br>
Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome.<br>Rich<br clear=3D"all"><span sty=
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</div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family=
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