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Re: Zero Config Printing
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Soyez-Miller, Clyde D)
Tue Sep 18 17:39:54 2012
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Hello,
If you were looking for something web-based, you could consider PaperCut's =
webprint: http://www.papercut.com/tour/web-print/
We investigated it about a year ago(we already used PaperCut), but it could=
n't handle our coversheets. If it were in a lab where the student would pi=
ck the print up immediately, it wouldn't have been the hurdle it was for us=
.
Good luck,
Clyde
Clyde Soyez-Miller
ResNet<http://resnet.missouristate.edu/> Administrator, Residence Life, Hou=
sing and Dining Services, Missouri State University
ClydeMiller@missouristate.edu| 417.836.6100 | 417.837.2327 (fax)
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian Gib=
son
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 8:39 AM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: Zero Config Printing
Are you still talking about their jobs going through your print servers? If=
so and the students have PCs the least amount of steps "I think" you can n=
arrow it down to is by doing the following...
1. Enabled the local "Guest" account on your Windows print server (since th=
e student machines are most likely not in your domain they will need the gu=
est account enabled to send the jobs over via Windows File and Print Sharin=
g.)
2. Speaking of Windows File and Print Sharing, make sure those firewall por=
ts are open on your Windows print server (most likely already are).
3. It's best if you can get like-printers across campus (example, all Xerox=
Phasers or all HP Laserjet 4100's etc...) that will use the same driver, t=
hat way once the student has the driver installed once they will no longer =
need that step one the second/third/subsequent print queues they connect to=
,
4. Make sure you have both the Windows 32 bit and 64 bit drivers available =
for your print queues (this can be a pain, I'd suggest setting up a 64 bit =
windows 2008 print server and use a 32 bit Windows 7 machine to upload the =
32 bit drivers using the print management tool. Note, to do this the Window=
s 7 32-bit machine needs to have the same local Administrator password as t=
he print server, or, you can probably log in as the domain admin on the 32 =
bit laptop to do it. There are a few other tricks to getting the 32 bit dri=
vers up there, if you run into issues shoot me an email).
5. Share out the print queue(s)
6. On the student computer, all they need to do to connect to a print queue=
and have it pull down the driver is go to "Start" -> "Run" and type in
\\printserver-name<file:///\\printserver-name>
and hit enter, once they see the queue they want they just double click on =
it. If they do not have the proper driver for that queue it will ask if it =
is okay to install it.
If you have Macs that you need to support you can either have them use Wind=
ows File/Print Sharing (samba under the hood I believe) to connect to your =
Windows print server, or, you can enable the LPR daemon on the Windows prin=
t server (I think it is called Unix Printing under the options) and have th=
e Macs use the LPR protocol. The Macs will not receive the drivers from the=
print server like the Windows clients will, they need the drivers installe=
d locally. There might be a Mac-print-server way of doing it cleanly but I =
am not sure.... not a Mac user.
Hope this helps.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Brian Gibson
Systems Administrator
Wheaton College
Are you a musician? If so visit my Arbans Online music site at http://arban=
sonline.com and listen & contribute
On 9/17/2012 4:48 PM, Richard Musal wrote:
Hello All
I am looking for a zero config printing solution for my public printers. S=
o a student walks into a computer lab on campus with their personal laptop =
and they wirelessly connect to the printer without installing any drivers a=
nd print their document. Perhaps this is done via a website or an email ad=
dress? Anyone doing something like this?
Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome.
Rich
-----------------------
Richard A. Musal, M.A., P.D.
Assistant Director of Client Services & Operations/Adjunct Professor of CIS
[http://home.manhattan.edu/collegerelations/email_logo.jpg]
Riverdale, NY 10471
Phone: 718-862-7933
Fax: 718-862-7877
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/o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-f=
amily:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If you were looking for somethi=
ng web-based, you could consider PaperCut’s webprint: </span><a href=
=3D"http://www.papercut.com/tour/web-print/">http://www.papercut.com/tour/w=
eb-print/</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans=
-serif";color:#1F497D'>We investigated it about a year ago(we already used =
PaperCut), but it couldn’t handle our coversheets. If it were i=
n a lab where the student would pick the print up immediately, it wouldn=
217;t have been the hurdle it was for us.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DM=
soNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"=
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span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"C=
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wtext'> Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>=
Brian Gibson<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 18, 2012 8:39 AM<br><b>To:<=
/b> RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Zero Config Printing<o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><d=
iv><p class=3DMsoNormal>Are you still talking about their jobs going throug=
h your print servers? If so and the students have PCs the least amount of s=
teps "I think" you can narrow it down to is by doing the followin=
g...<br><br>1. Enabled the local "Guest" account on your Windows =
print server (since the student machines are most likely not in your domain=
they will need the guest account enabled to send the jobs over via Windows=
File and Print Sharing.)<br><br>2. Speaking of Windows File and Print Shar=
ing, make sure those firewall ports are open on your Windows print server (=
most likely already are).<br><br>3. It's best if you can get like-printers =
across campus (example, all Xerox Phasers or all HP Laserjet 4100's etc...)=
that will use the same driver, that way once the student has the driver in=
stalled once they will no longer need that step one the second/third/subseq=
uent print queues they connect to,<br><br>4. Make sure you have both the Wi=
ndows 32 bit and 64 bit drivers available for your print queues (this can b=
e a pain, I'd suggest setting up a 64 bit windows 2008 print server and use=
a 32 bit Windows 7 machine to upload the 32 bit drivers using the print ma=
nagement tool. Note, to do this the Windows 7 32-bit machine needs to have =
the same local Administrator password as the print server, or, you can prob=
ably log in as the domain admin on the 32 bit laptop to do it. There are a =
few other tricks to getting the 32 bit drivers up there, if you run into is=
sues shoot me an email).<br><br>5. Share out the print queue(s)<br><br>6. O=
n the student computer, all they need to do to connect to a print queue and=
have it pull down the driver is go to "Start" -> "Run&qu=
ot; and type in<br><br><a href=3D"file:///\\printserver-name">\\printserver=
-name</a><br><br>and hit enter, once they see the queue they want they just=
double click on it. If they do not have the proper driver for that queue i=
t will ask if it is okay to install it.<br><br>If you have Macs that you ne=
ed to support you can either have them use Windows File/Print Sharing (samb=
a under the hood I believe) to connect to your Windows print server, or, yo=
u can enable the LPR daemon on the Windows print server (I think it is call=
ed Unix Printing under the options) and have the Macs use the LPR protocol.=
The Macs will not receive the drivers from the print server like the Windo=
ws clients will, they need the drivers installed locally. There might be a =
Mac-print-server way of doing it cleanly but I am not sure.... not a Mac us=
er.<br><br>Hope this helps.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><br>+++=
+++++++++++++++++++++++++<br>Brian Gibson<br>Systems Administrator<br>Wheat=
on College<br><br>Are you a musician? If so visit my Arbans Online music si=
te at <a href=3D"http://arbansonline.com">http://arbansonline.com</a> and l=
isten & contribute<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 9/17/201=
2 4:48 PM, Richard Musal wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D'ma=
rgin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hello All<br>I am =
looking for a zero config printing solution for my public printers. S=
o a student walks into a computer lab on campus with their personal laptop =
and they wirelessly connect to the printer without installing any drivers a=
nd print their document. Perhaps this is done via a website or an ema=
il address? Anyone doing something like this?<br>Any thoughts or sugg=
estions are welcome.<br>Rich<br clear=3Dall><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt=
;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#006600;background:white'><o:p></o:p><=
/span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-fa=
mily:"Georgia","serif";color:#006600;background:white'>--------------------=
---<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-=
size:10.5pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#006600;background:white'>R=
ichard A. Musal, M.A., P.D.</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-=
family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;background:white'> <o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><i><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-f=
amily:"Georgia","serif";color:#006600;background:white'>Assistant Director =
of Client Services & Operations/Adjunct Professor of CIS</span></i><spa=
n style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;=
background:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><sp=
an style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#222222;ba=
ckground:white'><img border=3D0 id=3D"_x0000_i1025" src=3D"http://home.manh=
attan.edu/collegerelations/email_logo.jpg"></span><span style=3D'font-size:=
10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;background:white'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size=
:10.5pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#222222;background:white'>River=
dale, NY 10471</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","s=
ans-serif";color:#222222;background:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Georgia"=
,"serif";color:#222222;background:white'>Phone: 718-862-7933</span><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;back=
ground:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span s=
tyle=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#222222;backgr=
ound:white'>Fax: 718-862-7877</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-fa=
mily:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;background:white'><o:p></o:p></span=
></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-f=
amily:"Georgia","serif";color:#222222;background:white'><a href=3D"mailto:r=
ichard.musal@manhattan.edu" target=3D"_blank">richard.musal@manhattan.edu</=
a></span><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";c=
olor:#222222;background:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
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