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Re: Apple Licensing
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jack Vizelter)
Fri Sep 14 14:31:39 2012
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We use GovConnection - www.govconnection.com - for a lot of our software p=
urchases, with the exception of OS and Office which we buy against the stat=
e contract agreement.
-jack
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Grzeczka,=
Timothy J
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 2:16 PM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: Apple Licensing
We just started this process as well.
The university does not provide software for any personal equipment (studen=
t, faculty, or staff). We do have a partnership with Varsity Buys http://va=
rsitybuys.com/ for discount software for personal equipment.
For university owned equipment, we have generic accounts setup for each dep=
artment with Apple IDs. There's a facilitator account and an installer acco=
unt. The idea is that they use the installer Apple ID to get the software d=
ownload. I'm not sure how this all operates in the backend at Apple (all I =
did was make the email accounts for the Apple IDs).
In a few cases we've done the redeem code option if a user already had a un=
iversity owned device with an Apple ID.
Tim
Timothy Grzeczka
Network Analyst, Dominican University<http://www.dom.edu>
tgrzeczk@dom.edu<mailto:tgrzeczk@dom.edu>
IM: grzetim@hotmail.com<mailto:grzetim@hotmail.com> (MSN)
Professional Profile<http://www.linkedin.com/pub/timothy-grzeczka/3/a5b/706=
>
7900 W. Division Street
River Forest, IL 60305 USA
work: (708) 524-6568
mobile: (773) 392-8237
fax: (708) 488-5111
Want a signature like this?<http://www.linkedin.com/e/sig/11569974/>
Dominican University IT Staff will NEVER ask you for your username or passw=
ord via email.
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]<mailto:[mailto:RESNET-=
L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]> On Behalf Of Jack Vizelter
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 12:12 PM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU>
Subject: Re: Apple Licensing
We don't use Apple's VPP for any Apple apps, we refer them to purchase it =
on their own or through the University's purchasing department. We've gone=
away from offering Mac OSX. The only Apple app we offer is Office.
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]<mailto:[mailto:RESNET-=
L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]> On Behalf Of Eric Lemmons
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 12:49 PM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU>
Subject: Re: Apple Licensing
Chris,
That's an interesting idea we may look into, though it sounds like a huge h=
assle to manage...
Jack,
We have a similar policy, but with Apple VPP the software license is attach=
ed to their personal Apple ID. We can have them uninstall it, but that does=
n't give us the license back.
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Jack Vizelter <jack@mail.rockefeller.edu<=
mailto:jack@mail.rockefeller.edu>> wrote:
We have a policy in place that any software installed on any computer that =
was purchased using the University funds is owned by the University and mus=
t be uninstalled when leaving. When we install the software for them we ma=
ke them sign a form that states that. Any software that they download, we =
have a form that they fill out where they check this off.
HR also goes over this form with them and advises them of such policy when =
they meet when the person leaves.
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSER=
V.ND.EDU>] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmons
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 12:29 PM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU>
Subject: Re: Apple Licensing
One of this issues I believe we're trying to deal with, though, is that if =
the user were to then leave the University we have no way to recoup that so=
ftware license.
For example, let's say we use the VPP to purchase a handful of Final Cut Pr=
o licenses ($299 each) for some of our marketing folks. If one of them leav=
es for another job the next month, they walk away with a $299 piece of soft=
ware that under traditional licensing we would keep. Is this just something=
we have to deal with? Am I missing a crucial part of the process somewhere=
?
Thanks for all the input!
-Eric
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Jack Vizelter <jack@mail.rockefeller.edu<=
mailto:jack@mail.rockefeller.edu>> wrote:
I believe I had inquired of this a year ago when Lion was released. As Jer=
emy points out, you'll need to go through the volume purchasing program and=
purchase 'x' amount of copies/licenses for the software you want and you'd=
get redemption codes for that software. You would then give one of these =
codes to your end-user who will need to use their own Apple-ID account to d=
ownload the software by entering this redemption code.
-jack
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSER=
V.ND.EDU>] On Behalf Of Jeremy Mlazovsky
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 11:21 AM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU>
Subject: Re: Apple Licensing
Someone her on-campus who dealt with this said the following:
"So, the answer to this is the Apple Volume Purchase Program (VPP): http:=
//www.apple.com/education/volume-purchase-program/
Right at this moment, I don't have time to lay out exactly how I'd architec=
t a setup to achieve their goals, but it is possible. The key is that all =
Apple ID's used on university-owned devices should be run through VPP - don=
't use personal Apple IDs."
Hope that helps.
Thanks.
Jeremy Mlazovsky '02
Director of Information Technology
College of Arts and Sciences
University of Dayton
300 College Park
Dayton, Ohio 45469-2206
937-229-2166<tel:937-229-2166>
Leadership UD 2009
Please contact the UDit Call Center (937-229-3888<tel:%28937-229-3888>) fo=
r service requests.
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Eric Lemmons <eric.lemmons@acu.edu<mailto=
:eric.lemmons@acu.edu>> wrote:
Good morning folks. One of our desktop support folks sent me the following =
email to pass on to y'all. I know we've had discussions about this before..=
.has anyone had any luck working with Apple on this? Are we missing somethi=
ng? Thanks for the help!
-Eric
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Eric,
I have a favor to request of you.
We currently use a "techadmin" App Store/iTunes account to buy software fro=
m the App Store. We are trying to figure out how to buy that software throu=
gh the App Store so that it's not tied to our techadmin account (that way u=
sers can update their software when they need to) but also not tied to the =
user's account (so that we are not giving them free software that they can =
then re-download if they were to leave the university). Giving them the tec=
hadmin account password is obviously a bad idea. Also, if we download using=
the techadmin account, we are paying for one product license, which means =
downloading with the same account on a different machine does not charge us=
for another product license and thus putting us out of licensing complianc=
e, something we need to avoid. We have emailed our Apple Rep, but haven't h=
eard anything back yet. It was also suggested that we have you email the In=
stitutional Helpdesk...people--I'm not sure I'm getting the name right. We =
can't be the only university having this trouble.
So, would you please email whomever you need to to find out what other univ=
ersities are doing?
Thanks,
Keith
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We use GovConnection - ww=
w.govconnection.com - for a lot of our software purchases, with the e=
xception of OS and Office which we buy against the state contract
agreement.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Grzeczka, Timothy J<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 14, 2012 2:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Apple Licensing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The university does not p=
rovide software for any personal equipment (student, faculty, or staff). We=
do have a partnership with Varsity Buys
<a href=3D"http://varsitybuys.com/">http://varsitybuys.com/</a> for discoun=
t software for personal equipment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">For university owned equi=
pment, we have generic accounts setup for each department with Apple IDs. T=
here’s a facilitator account and an installer account. The
idea is that they use the installer Apple ID to get the software download.=
I’m not sure how this all operates in the backend at Apple (all I di=
d was make the email accounts for the Apple IDs).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Network Analyst, <a href=3D"http://www.dom.edu" target=3D"nw">Dominican Uni=
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River Forest, IL 60305 USA<br>
work: (708) 524-6568<br>
mobile: (773) 392-8237<br>
fax: (708) 488-5111 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ERV.ND.EDU]</a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jack Vizelter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 14, 2012 12:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU">RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND=
.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Apple Licensing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We don’t use Apple&=
#8217;s VPP for any Apple apps, we refer them to purchase it on their=
own or through the University’s purchasing department. We̵=
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o:p></o:p></span></p>
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libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
;Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Resnet F=
orum
<a href=3D"mailto:[mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]">[mailto:RESNET-L@LISTS=
ERV.ND.EDU]</a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Eric Lemmons<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 14, 2012 12:49 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU">RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND=
.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Apple Licensing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Chris,<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">That's an interesting idea we may look into, though =
it sounds like a huge hassle to manage...<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jack,<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">We have a similar policy, but with Apple VPP the sof=
tware license is attached to their personal Apple ID. We can have them unin=
stall it, but that doesn't give us the license back.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Jack Vizelter <=
<a href=3D"mailto:jack@mail.rockefeller.edu" target=3D"_blank">jack@mail.ro=
ckefeller.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",&q=
uot;sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We have a policy in place that any soft=
ware installed on any computer that was purchased using the
University funds is owned by the University and must be uninstalled when l=
eaving. When we install the software for them we make them sign a for=
m that states that. Any software that they download, we have a form t=
hat they fill out where they check this off.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",&q=
uot;sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",&q=
uot;sans-serif";color:#1F497D">HR also goes over this form with them a=
nd advises them of such policy when they meet when the person
leaves.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",&q=
uot;sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",&q=
uot;sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",&q=
uot;sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",=
"sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Resnet Forum [mailto:<=
a href=3D"mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU" target=3D"_blank">RESNET-L@LISTS=
ERV.ND.EDU</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Eric Lemmons<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 14, 2012 12:29 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU" target=3D"_blank">RE=
SNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Apple Licensing<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">One of this issues I believe we're trying to deal with, though, is=
that if the user were to then leave the University we have no way to recou=
p that software license.<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">For example, let's say we use the VPP to purchase a handful of Fin=
al Cut Pro licenses ($299 each) for some of our marketing folks. If one of =
them leaves for another job the next
month, they walk away with a $299 piece of software that under traditional=
licensing we would keep. Is this just something we have to deal with? Am I=
missing a crucial part of the process somewhere?<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">Thanks for all the input!<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0p=
t">-Eric<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Jack Vizelter <<a href=3D"mai=
lto:jack@mail.rockefeller.edu" target=3D"_blank">jack@mail.rockefeller.edu<=
/a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",&q=
uot;sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I believe I had inquired of this a year=
ago when Lion was released. As Jeremy points out, you’ll
need to go through the volume purchasing program and purchase ‘xR=
17; amount of copies/licenses for the software you want and you’d get=
redemption codes for that software. You would then give one of these=
codes to your end-user who will need to use their own
Apple-ID account to download the software by entering this redemption code=
.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",&q=
uot;sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",&q=
uot;sans-serif";color:#1F497D">-jack</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",&q=
uot;sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",=
"sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Resnet Forum [mailto:<=
a href=3D"mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU" target=3D"_blank">RESNET-L@LISTS=
ERV.ND.EDU</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeremy Mlazovsky<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 14, 2012 11:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU" target=3D"_blank">RE=
SNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Apple Licensing</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">Someone her on-campus who dealt with this said the following:<o:p>=
</o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",&quo=
t;sans-serif";color:#222222;background:white">"So, the answer to =
this is the Apple Volume Purchase Program (VPP): </span><a href=
=3D"http://www.apple.com/education/volume-purchase-program/" target=3D"_bla=
nk"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","san=
s-serif";color:#1155CC;background:white">http://www.apple.com/educatio=
n/volume-purchase-program/</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;background:whi=
te"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto;background:white">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-se=
rif";color:#222222"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto;background:white">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-se=
rif";color:#222222">Right at this moment, I don't have time to lay out=
exactly how I'd architect a setup to achieve their goals, but it is possib=
le. The key is that all Apple ID's used on university-owned
devices should be run through VPP - don't use personal Apple IDs."</s=
pan><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">Hope that helps.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">Jeremy Mlazovsky '02<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">Director of Information Technology<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">College of Arts and Sciences<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">University of Dayton<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">300 College Park<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">Dayton, Ohio 45469-2206<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><a href=3D"tel:937-229-2166" target=3D"_blank">937-229-2166</a><o:=
p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">Leadership UD 2009<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">Please contact the UDit Call Center <a href=3D"tel:%28937-22=
9-3888" target=3D"_blank">(937-229-3888</a>) for service requests.<o:p=
></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0p=
t"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Eric Lemmons <<a href=3D"mail=
to:eric.lemmons@acu.edu" target=3D"_blank">eric.lemmons@acu.edu</a>> wro=
te:<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">Good morning folks. One of our desktop support folks sent me the f=
ollowing email to pass on to y'all. I know we've had discussions about this=
before...has anyone had any luck working
with Apple on this? Are we missing something? Thanks for the help!<o:p></o=
:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0p=
t">-Eric<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
<br>
Eric,<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">I have a favor to request of you. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">We currently use a "techadmin" App Store/iTunes account =
to buy software from the App Store. We are trying to figure out how to buy =
that software through the App Store so that it's
not tied to our techadmin account (that way users can update their softwar=
e when they need to) but also not tied to the user's account (so that we ar=
e not giving them free software that they can then re-download if they were=
to leave the university). Giving
them the techadmin account password is obviously a bad idea. Also, if we d=
ownload using the techadmin account, we are paying for one product license,=
which means downloading with the same account on a different machine does =
not charge us for another product
license and thus putting us out of licensing compliance, something we need=
to avoid. We have emailed our Apple Rep, but haven't heard anything back y=
et. It was also suggested that we have you email the Institutional Helpdesk=
...people--I'm not sure I'm getting
the name right. We can't be the only university having this trouble. =
<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">So, would you please email whomever you need to to find out what o=
ther universities are doing? <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">Thanks,<br>
Keith<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"color:#888888"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"color:#888888">--
<br>
Eric Lemmons<br>
Hardware Repair Coordinator<br>
Team55 Repair Coordinator<br>
ACU Technology Support Services<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:eric.lemmons@acu.edu" target=3D"_blank">eric.lemmons@acu.=
edu</a><br>
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Hardware Repair Coordinator<br>
Team55 Repair Coordinator<br>
ACU Technology Support Services<br>
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