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Re: Apple Licensing
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jack Vizelter)
Fri Sep 14 12:25:31 2012
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I believe I had inquired of this a year ago when Lion was released. As Jer=
emy points out, you'll need to go through the volume purchasing program and=
purchase 'x' amount of copies/licenses for the software you want and you'd=
get redemption codes for that software. You would then give one of these =
codes to your end-user who will need to use their own Apple-ID account to d=
ownload the software by entering this redemption code.
-jack
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeremy Ml=
azovsky
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 11:21 AM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: Apple Licensing
Someone her on-campus who dealt with this said the following:
"So, the answer to this is the Apple Volume Purchase Program (VPP): http:=
//www.apple.com/education/volume-purchase-program/
Right at this moment, I don't have time to lay out exactly how I'd architec=
t a setup to achieve their goals, but it is possible. The key is that all =
Apple ID's used on university-owned devices should be run through VPP - don=
't use personal Apple IDs."
Hope that helps.
Thanks.
Jeremy Mlazovsky '02
Director of Information Technology
College of Arts and Sciences
University of Dayton
300 College Park
Dayton, Ohio 45469-2206
937-229-2166
Leadership UD 2009
Please contact the UDit Call Center (937-229-3888) for service requests.
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Eric Lemmons <eric.lemmons@acu.edu<mailto=
:eric.lemmons@acu.edu>> wrote:
Good morning folks. One of our desktop support folks sent me the following =
email to pass on to y'all. I know we've had discussions about this before..=
.has anyone had any luck working with Apple on this? Are we missing somethi=
ng? Thanks for the help!
-Eric
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Eric,
I have a favor to request of you.
We currently use a "techadmin" App Store/iTunes account to buy software fro=
m the App Store. We are trying to figure out how to buy that software throu=
gh the App Store so that it's not tied to our techadmin account (that way u=
sers can update their software when they need to) but also not tied to the =
user's account (so that we are not giving them free software that they can =
then re-download if they were to leave the university). Giving them the tec=
hadmin account password is obviously a bad idea. Also, if we download using=
the techadmin account, we are paying for one product license, which means =
downloading with the same account on a different machine does not charge us=
for another product license and thus putting us out of licensing complianc=
e, something we need to avoid. We have emailed our Apple Rep, but haven't h=
eard anything back yet. It was also suggested that we have you email the In=
stitutional Helpdesk...people--I'm not sure I'm getting the name right. We =
can't be the only university having this trouble.
So, would you please email whomever you need to to find out what other univ=
ersities are doing?
Thanks,
Keith
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Team55 Repair Coordinator
ACU Technology Support Services
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I believe I had inquired =
of this a year ago when Lion was released. As Jeremy points out, you&=
#8217;ll need to go through the volume purchasing program and purchase
‘x’ amount of copies/licenses for the software you want and yo=
u’d get redemption codes for that software. You would then give=
one of these codes to your end-user who will need to use their own Apple-I=
D account to download the software by entering this redemption
code.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">-jack<o:p></o:p></span></=
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libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
;Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Resnet F=
orum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeremy Mlazovsky<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 14, 2012 11:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Apple Licensing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Someone her on-campus who dealt with this said the f=
ollowing:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial","sans-serif";color:#222222;background:white">"So, =
the answer to this is the Apple Volume Purchase Program (VPP): =
</span><a href=3D"http://www.apple.com/education/volume-purchase-program/" =
target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial&q=
uot;,"sans-serif";color:#1155CC;background:white">http://www.appl=
e.com/education/volume-purchase-program/</span></a><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;=
background:white"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222">=
<o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222">=
Right at this moment, I don't have time to lay out exactly how I'd architec=
t a setup to achieve their goals, but it is possible. The
key is that all Apple ID's used on university-owned devices should be run =
through VPP - don't use personal Apple IDs."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hope that helps.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jeremy Mlazovsky '02<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Director of Information Technology<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">College of Arts and Sciences<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">University of Dayton<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">300 College Park<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dayton, Ohio 45469-2206<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">937-229-2166<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Leadership UD 2009<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please contact the UDit Call Center (937-229-3=
888) for service requests.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Eric Lemmons <<=
a href=3D"mailto:eric.lemmons@acu.edu" target=3D"_blank">eric.lemmons@acu.e=
du</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Good morning folks. One of our desktop support folks=
sent me the following email to pass on to y'all. I know we've had discussi=
ons about this before...has anyone had any luck working with Apple on this?=
Are we missing something? Thanks
for the help!<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">-Eric<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
<br>
Eric,<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have a favor to request of you. <o:p></o:p></=
p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">We currently use a "techadmin" App Store/i=
Tunes account to buy software from the App Store. We are trying to figure o=
ut how to buy that software through the App Store so that it's not tied to =
our techadmin account (that way users can update
their software when they need to) but also not tied to the user's account =
(so that we are not giving them free software that they can then re-downloa=
d if they were to leave the university). Giving them the techadmin account =
password is obviously a bad idea.
Also, if we download using the techadmin account, we are paying for one pr=
oduct license, which means downloading with the same account on a different=
machine does not charge us for another product license and thus putting us=
out of licensing compliance, something
we need to avoid. We have emailed our Apple Rep, but haven't heard anythin=
g back yet. It was also suggested that we have you email the Institutional =
Helpdesk...people--I'm not sure I'm getting the name right. We can't be the=
only university having this trouble. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">So, would you please email whomever you need to to f=
ind out what other universities are doing? <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,<br>
Keith<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#888888"><o:p> </o:p></spa=
n></p>
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<span class=3D"hoenzb">Eric Lemmons</span><br>
<span class=3D"hoenzb">Hardware Repair Coordinator</span><br>
<span class=3D"hoenzb">Team55 Repair Coordinator</span><br>
<span class=3D"hoenzb">ACU Technology Support Services</span><br>
<span class=3D"hoenzb"><a href=3D"mailto:eric.lemmons@acu.edu" target=3D"_b=
lank">eric.lemmons@acu.edu</a></span><br>
<span class=3D"hoenzb"><a href=3D"tel:325.674.2881" target=3D"_blank">325.6=
74.2881</a></span><br>
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