[27931] in resnet
Re: offline ID card access systems
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike King)
Tue Sep 11 21:00:27 2012
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:48:15 -0400
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I pursued some wireless door locks with my Vendor ( http://www.lenel.com/ILS
)
Basically, it came down to how many doors are you planning on managing?
The vendor we used had experience implementing it, and recommended that if
you have one door, or two doors, it's effective, but anything more than
that, he strongly recommended just wiring back to a panel system. The long
term benefits (as you've noticed with your existing offline system) are
just so much better.
Mike
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Brian Gibson <
gibson_brian@wheatoncollege.edu> wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
>
> Thanks for the response, we are using the same Stanley/BEST software but
> we are using it in an offline way (I forgot to mention that the software
> was designed to be used online but it can be used in offline mode....which
> I wouldn't suggest). I know Joe just mentioned wireless door locks, does
> anyone have experience with these (setup, cost, maintenance for Locksmith,
> usefulness etc...)
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Brian Gibson
> Systems Administrator
> Wheaton College
>
> Are you a musician? If so visit my Arbans Online music site at
> http://arbansonline.com and listen & contribute
> On 9/11/2012 4:40 PM, Jeff Kell wrote:
>
>> On 9/11/2012 4:00 PM, Brian Gibson wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> We use a product from Stanley called BEST for door access. The system is
>>> offline
>>> meaning the locks on the doors are not wired to our network and we only
>>> use it on one
>>> dorm (because frankly, it is a real pain). Any suggestions out there for
>>> another
>>> offline (guest) replacement application OR is there an easy way to hook
>>> these doors up
>>> to the network since we do have the S2 online system for other areas of
>>> campus. Back
>>> about 5-6 years ago we were told it would cost $3,000 - $5,000 per door
>>> to wire them
>>> to the network.... has anything changed since then?
>>>
>> We use Best/Stanley. The doors themselves are analog wired. There are
>> building "panel
>> controllers" which connect to the network and can be downloaded (or they
>> download, not
>> sure which way it works exactly) lists of access codes for the associated
>> doors. If
>> they lose contact on the network and cannot phone home, they keep their
>> current status
>> for a period of time, then fail-safe to whatever mode you program (open
>> or closed).
>>
>> Jeff
>>
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I pursued some wireless door locks with my Vendor (
<a href=3D"http://www.lenel.com/ILS">http://www.lenel.com/ILS</a>=A0)<div><=
br></div><div>Basically, it came down to how many doors are you planning on=
managing? =A0The vendor we used had=A0experience=A0implementing=A0it, and =
recommended that if you have one door, or two doors, it's effective, bu=
t anything more than that, he strongly recommended just=A0wiring=A0back to =
a panel system. =A0The long term=A0benefits=A0(as you've noticed with y=
our existing offline system) are just so much better.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Mike</div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Brian Gibson <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gibson_brian@wheatoncollege.edu" target=3D"_blank">gib=
son_brian@wheatoncollege.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Jeff,<br>
<br>
Thanks for the response, we are using the same Stanley/BEST software but we=
are using it in an offline way (I forgot to mention that the software was =
designed to be used online but it can be used in offline mode....which I wo=
uldn't suggest). I know Joe just mentioned wireless door locks, does an=
yone have experience with these (setup, cost, maintenance for Locksmith, us=
efulness etc...)<br>
<br>
Thanks!<div class=3D"im HOEnZb"><br>
<br>
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<br>
Brian Gibson<br>
Systems Administrator<br>
Wheaton College<br>
<br>
Are you a musician? If so visit my Arbans Online music site at <a href=3D"h=
ttp://arbansonline.com" target=3D"_blank">http://arbansonline.com</a> and l=
isten & contribute<br></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">
On 9/11/2012 4:40 PM, Jeff Kell wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On 9/11/2012 4:00 PM, Brian Gibson wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi all,<br>
<br>
We use a product from Stanley called BEST for door access. The system is of=
fline<br>
meaning the locks on the doors are not wired to our network and we only use=
it on one<br>
dorm (because frankly, it is a real pain). Any suggestions out there for an=
other<br>
offline (guest) replacement application OR is there an easy way to hook the=
se doors up<br>
to the network since we do have the S2 online system for other areas of cam=
pus. Back<br>
about 5-6 years ago we were told it would cost $3,000 - $5,000 per door to =
wire them<br>
to the network.... has anything changed since then?<br>
</blockquote>
We use Best/Stanley. =A0The doors themselves are analog wired. =A0There are=
building "panel<br>
controllers" which connect to the network and can be downloaded (or th=
ey download, not<br>
sure which way it works exactly) lists of access codes for the associated d=
oors. =A0If<br>
they lose contact on the network and cannot phone home, they keep their cur=
rent status<br>
for a period of time, then fail-safe to whatever mode you program (open or =
closed).<br>
<br>
Jeff<br>
<br>
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