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Re: Apple TV in the classroom
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric Lemmons)
Tue May 8 09:24:00 2012
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Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 08:23:09 -0500
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From: Eric Lemmons <eric.lemmons@acu.edu>
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We too are eager to explore the AirGroup capability when the time comes. We
are using Aruba and for now, our short term solution has been to create an
additional SSID broadcast from our access points specifically for AirPlay
functionality. The AppleTVs are registered on that network manually and
anyone else is required to enter Faculty/Staff credentials upon connection
to receive a limited time access to that network. All devices on that SSID
are then routed to the same subnet. This setup prevents people from camping
on the AirPlay SSID while still providing the network setup needed for
AirPlay functionality.
That said, this is not a long-term solution by any means, but works until
you start rolling out massive numbers of AppleTVs. We currently only have
it set up in a small handful of classrooms and conference rooms. We even
have only enabled the AirPlay SSID on access points around those classrooms
and conference rooms.
Even with the AirGrouping, there will be some challenges with large scale
deployment of AppleTVs, but it will at least be a start.
-Eric
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Greg Bowser <bowser@uri.edu> wrote:
> I don't have anything working yet, but I was in the same predicament a
> few months ago. I can tell you what I discovered did *not* work... The
> only potential solution I was able to find was "wide area bonjour", which
> essentially replaces mDNS with unicast DNS using a search domain and an ANY
> query. The documentation regarding this is very encouraging, however after
> some packet captures, I determined that the iThings don't actually utilize
> the search domain/wide area bonjour for Airplay.
>
> Sometime after that, we received an email from Aruba regarding their new
> "Airgroup" functionality. We plan on looking into this at some point, but
> have yet to do so:
>
> http://www.arubanetworks.com/news-releases/airgroup-release
>
>
> - Greg
>
> -------------------------------
> Greg Bowser
> Information Technologist
> Information Security Office
> University of Rhode Island
>
> bowser@uri.edu
> (401) 874-7285
>
> 1 Tyler Hall
> 9 Green House Rd
> Kingston, RI 02881
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug Burke" <burke@sandiego.edu>
> To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Sent: Monday, May 7, 2012 6:53:11 PM
> Subject: Apple TV in the classroom
>
> We are being asked to make Apple TV work on our Aruba Wireless network. We
> have spend several days and read plenty of blogs regarding issues with ATV
> and corporate wireless. Is anyone out there actually using it in the
> classroom, on wireless for more than just a pilot? If so I would like to
> have a technical discussion on how you accomplished it. Thank you.
>
> Doug
>
>
> Douglas Burke
> Director
> Network Infrastructure Systems & Services
> University of San Diego
> 5998 Alcala Park
> Maher Hall Room 197
> San Diego, CA 92110-2492
> Phone (619) 260.6868
> Fax (619) 849.8383
> E-mail burke@SanDiego.edu
>
>
> USD Technology Services will never ask for your password. Please do not
> share it with others!
> Any email that does request this or other personal information is
> fraudulent and you should delete it or mark it as Junk Mail and block the
> sender.
>
>
> "The void created by the failure to communicate is soon filled with
> poison, drivel and misrepresentation." C. Northcote Parkinson
>
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We too are eager to explore the AirGroup capability when the time comes. We=
are using Aruba and for now, our short term solution has been to create an=
additional SSID broadcast from our access points specifically for AirPlay =
functionality. The AppleTVs are registered on that network manually and any=
one else is required to enter Faculty/Staff credentials upon connection to =
receive a limited time access to that network. All devices on that SSID are=
then routed to the same subnet. This setup prevents people from camping on=
the AirPlay SSID while still providing the network setup needed for AirPla=
y functionality.<div>
<br></div><div>That said, this is not a long-term solution by any means, bu=
t works until you start rolling out massive numbers of AppleTVs. We current=
ly only have it set up in a small handful of classrooms and conference room=
s. We even have only enabled the AirPlay SSID on access points around those=
classrooms and conference rooms.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Even with the AirGrouping, there will be some challenge=
s with large scale deployment of AppleTVs, but it will at least be a start.=
</div><div><br></div><div>-Eric<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, M=
ay 7, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Greg Bowser <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:=
bowser@uri.edu" target=3D"_blank">bowser@uri.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I don't have anything working yet, =A0bu=
t I was in the same predicament a few months ago. =A0I can tell you what I =
discovered did *not* work... The only potential solution I was able to find=
was "wide area bonjour", which essentially replaces mDNS with un=
icast DNS using a search domain and an ANY query. The documentation regardi=
ng this is very encouraging, however after some packet captures, I determin=
ed that the iThings don't actually utilize the search domain/wide area =
bonjour for Airplay.<br>
<br>
Sometime after that, we received an email from Aruba regarding their new &q=
uot;Airgroup" functionality. =A0We plan on looking into this at some p=
oint, but have yet to do so:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.arubanetworks.com/news-releases/airgroup-release" tar=
get=3D"_blank">http://www.arubanetworks.com/news-releases/airgroup-release<=
/a><br>
<br>
<br>
- Greg<br>
<br>
-------------------------------<br>
Greg Bowser<br>
Information Technologist<br>
Information Security Office<br>
University of Rhode Island<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:bowser@uri.edu">bowser@uri.edu</a><br>
<a href=3D"tel:%28401%29%20874-7285" value=3D"+14018747285">(401) 874-7285<=
/a><br>
<br>
1 Tyler Hall<br>
9 Green House Rd<br>
Kingston, RI 02881<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Doug Burke" <<a href=3D"mailto:burke@sandiego.edu">burk=
e@sandiego.edu</a>><br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU">RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU</a=
><br>
Sent: Monday, May 7, 2012 6:53:11 PM<br>
Subject: Apple TV in the classroom<br>
<br>
We are being asked to make Apple TV work on our Aruba Wireless network. We<=
br>
have spend several days and read plenty of blogs regarding issues with ATV<=
br>
and corporate wireless. Is anyone out there actually using it in the<br>
classroom, on wireless for more than just a pilot? If so I would like to<br=
>
have a technical discussion on how you accomplished it. Thank you.<br>
<br>
Doug<br>
<br>
<br>
Douglas Burke<br>
Director<br>
Network Infrastructure Systems & Services<br>
University of San Diego<br>
5998 Alcala Park<br>
Maher Hall Room 197<br>
San Diego, CA =A092110-2492<br>
Phone =A0 =A0 =A0<a href=3D"tel:%28619%29%20260.6868" value=3D"+16192606868=
">(619) 260.6868</a><br>
Fax =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 <a href=3D"tel:%28619%29%20849.8383" value=3D"+1619=
8498383">(619) 849.8383</a><br>
E-mail =A0 =A0 burke@SanDiego.edu<br>
<br>
<br>
USD Technology Services will never ask for your password. =A0 Please do not=
<br>
share it with others!<br>
Any email that does request this or other personal information is<br>
fraudulent and you should delete it or mark it as Junk Mail and block the<b=
r>
sender.<br>
<br>
<br>
"The void created by the failure to communicate is soon filled with<br=
>
poison, drivel and misrepresentation." C. Northcote Parkinson<br>
<br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>=
Eric Lemmons<br>Hardware Repair Coordinator<br>Team55 Repair Coordinator<br=
>ACU Technology Support Services<br><a href=3D"mailto:eric.lemmons@acu.edu"=
target=3D"_blank">eric.lemmons@acu.edu</a><br>
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