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Re: Wireless printing on campus

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brian Gibson)
Wed Jan 4 17:01:13 2012

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Volume was our issue with WEPA, we didn't seem to have enough demand for 
them to put the Kiosks in all the locations we wanted so we decided not 
to use them. If I remember correctly they said each location should have 
a minimum of 500 prints per day to make it worth their while.

On 1/4/2012 4:50 PM, Koerber, Jeff wrote:
>
> We are looking at a cloud based system called WEPA 
> <https://www.wepanow.com/>.  The demo looked pretty impressive.
>
> ·Payment
>
> oThey could accept our OneCard
>
> oGuests can create an account and add money via a credit card
>
> oAnyone can pay with a credit card at the kiosk (with an additional fee).
>
> ·Kiosks
>
> oWEPA provides self-contained kiosks which include a printer that they 
> maintain.  All it needs is electricity & Ethernet.
>
> oYou can have the kiosk branded with your logo/design for an 
> additional fee
>
> o you get 1 kiosk for every 100K pages/year printed campuswide.  Also, 
> you can choose where to place the kiosks.
>
> §For example if you printed 800,000 pages/year, you would get 8 
> kiosks.  However, if you have 8 kiosks and only printed 700,000 
> pages/year, then you have to pay WEPA for every page you are under the 
> amount.
>
> oWEPA supplies the paper & toner for their kiosks, but the University 
> would be responsible for stocking the printers
>
> oYou can make additional money by running advertisements and allowing 
> students to print out coupons (free to the students).
>
> oYou can insert your own announcements in the system as well.
>
> oYou can get a spare on-site kiosk
>
> Has anyone else implemented this system?  What do you think of it?  
> Does it scale well?  How is the support?  We probably would want to 
> put one in our commons building, a few in our library and some in 
> academic buildings.  I wonder if we would have enough volume to add 
> kiosks in each residence hall.
>
> Jeff Koerber
>
> Supervisor, Student Computing Services Service Desk & Lab
>
> Towson University
>
> Towson, MD
>
> *From:*Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] *On Behalf Of 
> *Lee Weers
> *Sent:* Friday, December 16, 2011 12:00 PM
> *To:* RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [RESNET-L] Wireless printing on campus
>
> I have been looking at Google cloud print, but I have not begun any 
> deployment.  I have looked at ePrint from HP, but when it comes to 
> deploying it I keep running into the call you account manager, so I am 
> assuming it is a charge to get it setup.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Lee Weers
>
> Central College
>
> IT Services
>
> Assistant Director for Network Services
>
> 641-628-7675
>
> Vcard 
> https://www.mcpvirtualbusinesscard.com/VBCServer/LeeWeers/interactivecard
>
> Vprofile https://www.mcpvirtualbusinesscard.com/VBCServer/LeeWeers/profile
>
> *From:*Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] 
> <mailto:[mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]> *On Behalf Of *Brenda F. Adrian
> *Sent:* Friday, December 02, 2011 9:46 AM
> *To:* RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU <mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU>
> *Subject:* Wireless printing on campus
>
> Has anyone implemented wireless printing in the labs in residence 
> halls or on campus?  We have a wireless print service in place in the 
> library (EdPrint) but it requires students to login to a web 
> application and print a document from that application.  Some of our 
> server admins would prefer to scrap that system and instead just have 
> students print via IP address.  Although we have AD, students do not 
> join the domain so this would not affect printing from personal 
> laptops.  Also has anyone implemented printing from iPads or other 
> tablets?  Looking for any ideas in managing this campus wide.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Brenda Adrian
> Associate Director, Instructional Technology
> St. Edward's University
> brendaa@stedwards.edu <mailto:brendaa@stedwards.edu>
> 512-448-8729
>
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    Volume was our issue with WEPA, we didn't seem to have enough demand
    for them to put the Kiosks in all the locations we wanted so we
    decided not to use them. If I remember correctly they said each
    location should have a minimum of 500 prints per day to make it
    worth their while.<br>
    <br>
    On 1/4/2012 4:50 PM, Koerber, Jeff wrote:
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            The demo looked pretty impressive.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Payment<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">They
            could accept our OneCard<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Guests
            can create an account and add money via a credit card<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Anyone
            can pay with a credit card at the kiosk (with an additional
            fee). 
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Kiosks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <!--[if !supportLists]--><span
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            New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span
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              </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">WEPA
            provides self-contained kiosks which include a printer that
            they maintain.  All it needs is electricity &amp; Ethernet.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph"
          style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2
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          <!--[if !supportLists]--><span
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            New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span
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              </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">You
            can have the kiosk branded with your logo/design for an
            additional fee<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph"
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          <!--[if !supportLists]--><span
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              </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"> you
            get 1 kiosk for every 100K pages/year printed campuswide.
             Also, you can choose where to place the kiosks.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph"
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          <!--[if !supportLists]--><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D"><span
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              </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">For
            example if you printed 800,000 pages/year, you would get 8
            kiosks.  However, if you have 8 kiosks and only printed
            700,000 pages/year, then you have to pay WEPA for every page
            you are under the amount.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph"
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          <!--[if !supportLists]--><span
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            New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span
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              </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">WEPA
            supplies the paper &amp; toner for their kiosks, but the
            University would be responsible for stocking the printers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph"
          style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2
          lfo1">
          <!--[if !supportLists]--><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span
                style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">  
              </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">You
            can make additional money by running advertisements and
            allowing students to print out coupons (free to the
            students).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph"
          style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2
          lfo1">
          <!--[if !supportLists]--><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span
                style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">  
              </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">You
            can insert your own announcements in the system as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph"
          style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2
          lfo1">
          <!--[if !supportLists]--><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span
                style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">  
              </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">You
            can get a spare on-site kiosk<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Has
            anyone else implemented this system?  What do you think of
            it?  Does it scale well?  How is the support?  We probably
            would want to put one in our commons building, a few in our
            library and some in academic buildings.  I wonder if we
            would have enough volume to add kiosks in each residence
            hall.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Jeff
            Koerber<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Supervisor,
            Student Computing Services Service Desk &amp; Lab<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Towson
            University<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Towson,
            MD<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span
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                Resnet Forum [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU">mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lee Weers<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 16, 2011 12:00 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU">RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [RESNET-L] Wireless printing on
                campus<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I
            have been looking at Google cloud print, but I have not
            begun any deployment.  I have looked at ePrint from HP, but
            when it comes to deploying it I keep running into the call
            you account manager, so I am assuming it is a charge to get
            it setup.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Thank
              you,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Lee
              Weers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Central
              College<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">IT
              Services<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Assistant
              Director for Network Services<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">641-628-7675<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Vcard
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.mcpvirtualbusinesscard.com/VBCServer/LeeWeers/interactivecard">https://www.mcpvirtualbusinesscard.com/VBCServer/LeeWeers/interactivecard</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Vprofile
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://www.mcpvirtualbusinesscard.com/VBCServer/LeeWeers/profile">https://www.mcpvirtualbusinesscard.com/VBCServer/LeeWeers/profile</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
                Resnet Forum
                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:[mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]">[mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]</a>
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brenda F. Adrian<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 02, 2011 9:46 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU">RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Wireless printing on campus<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Has anyone
              implemented wireless printing in the labs in residence
              halls or on campus?  We have a wireless print service in
              place in the library (EdPrint) but it requires students to
              login to a web application and print a document from that
              application.  Some of our server admins would prefer to
              scrap that system and instead just have students print via
              IP address.  Although we have AD, students do not join the
              domain so this would not affect printing from personal
              laptops.  Also has anyone implemented printing from iPads
              or other tablets?  Looking for any ideas in managing this
              campus wide.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
                style="color:black">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Brenda
                  Adrian<br>
                  Associate Director, Instructional Technology<br>
                  St. Edward's University<br>
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:brendaa@stedwards.edu">brendaa@stedwards.edu</a><br>
                  512-448-8729</span><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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