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Re: Question for Google Apps for Edu email users
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tony Skalski)
Thu Nov 10 14:12:47 2011
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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 13:10:20 -0600
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From: Tony Skalski <ajs@stolaf.edu>
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To follow up on what Bud said, I would recommend you avoid any attempt
to try to use Outlook. We have looked at the Outlook connectors from a
few products and they all seemed to have mild to severe issues, and
couldn't be trusted, especially with C-class employees. We had a small
contingent of Outlook users, and they came around and liked the Google
interface.
And, as the guy who did much of the meeting maker to google migration
here at St. Olaf, it wasn't painful, it was just a lot of
export-import tedium, as we migrated groups of users instead of
everyone at once, and we had to upgrade our version of meeting maker
each time so that we could access a new export feature that allowed us
to import to Google.
There are so many additional services that Google brings to the table,
beyond email and calendaring, that it was an easy choice for us (we
did take a good look at Zimbra, and a few others).
ajs
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Shannon Peevey <speeves@stolaf.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Zimbra (we use VMware now)
>
> carleton.edu (with whom we collaborate) went with Zimbra ~2008. My only real
> experience was with connecting Blackberry's for syncing, and the sync tool
> was limited somehow. (I think that it didn't sync with the calendar at the
> time). But, someone at Carleton could weigh in on their experiences. Zimbra
> was our other alternative, and we felt that the Google product was the most
> compelling.
>
>>
>> Oracle's Collaboration Suite
>
> http://www.macalester.edu/ migrated from Oracle CS to Google Apps, so they
> could weigh in there.
>
> We were a meeting maker campus, and the migration from meeting maker to
> Google Apps was painful. You can contact Craig Rice (cdr@stolaf.edu) if you
> would like more information on how we did it. He handled those migrations.
> Google Apps calendaring has had a limitation in that:
> 1. we would like student workers (as admin assistants) to be able to make
> appointments for staff in some depts. (ie Health Center, Academic Support
> Center, Center for Experiential Learning, etc), but you need to share your
> calendar with the student worker, _meaning_ that the student has access to
> the staff calendar, and meeting information at all times. The fear is that
> the student will forget to logout of their Google Apps account at a public
> kiosk, and the next students could sit down and view all of the student
> client names and appointment information.
> This has been a struggle, and so, the effected departments have continued to
> use meeting maker.
> Does anyone have any news on Google Apps changes that may help with this?
> thanks,
> --
> Shannon Eric Peevey
> Systems Programmer
> Information and Instructional Technologies
> St. Olaf College
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