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Re: Question for Google Apps for Edu email users
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bud Hiller)
Thu Nov 10 13:52:39 2011
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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 13:49:32 -0500
Reply-To: bud.hiller@BUCKNELL.EDU
From: Bud Hiller <dhiller@BUCKNELL.EDU>
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Hi Brian,
At Bucknell, we moved to Zimbra a few years ago, and then moved away from
it to Google Apps for everyone in 2009-10.
Zimbra worked great as a web only client, but we had a terrible experience
trying to use the Outlook connector. When we moved to Google Apps, we very
specifically did not entertain the vaguest concept of using a connector
with Outlook and we've been firm about telling Outlook and Apple Mail users
that we fully support the web client only . . . and it has worked out
really well for nearly everyone involved.
We also used Meeting Maker back in the day, and there are still some people
who miss those halcyon days of yesteryear when email was Eudora and
calendars were separate, but you're doing yourself a disservice if you
don't take advantage of the huge collaborative possibilities with a suite.
Good luck - it's a sweeping change, but everyone adjusts to it eventually!
Bud Hiller
Bucknell Univ
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Brian Gibson <
gibson_brian@wheatoncollege.edu> wrote:
> Hi everyone, thanks for all the responses, the info is very helpful. Just
> as a side note, along with looking at Microsoft Live@edu and Google we
> are also looking at these in-house products.
>
> Zimbra (we use VMware now)
> Oracle's Collaboration Suite
> Sogo
>
> or... sticking with our current mail server product (CommuniGate Pro) and
> start using the Calendaring side of it too (right now we use Meeting Maker).
>
> If anyone has thoughts on the above products feel free to chime in :-)
>
>
>
> On 11/10/2011 9:58 AM, Shannon Peevey wrote:
>
> We also have a local mail server used for mailing lists.
>>
>>
>> Good point, Robert! Google imposes a recipient limit on messages, so
> it is probably a necessity to keep your mailing lists inhouse, or use a
> dedicated mailing list service.
>
>
> --
> Shannon Eric Peevey
> Systems Programmer
> Information and Instructional Technologies
> St. Olaf College
> 1510 St. Olaf Avenue
> Northfield, MN 55057-1097 USA
> +1 507 786-3731, +1 507 786-3096 (fax)
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<font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D"2">Hi Brian, <br><br>At Bucknell, we =
moved to Zimbra a few years ago, and then moved away from it to Google Apps=
for everyone in 2009-10.<br><br>Zimbra worked great as a web only client, =
but we had a terrible experience trying to use the Outlook connector. When =
we moved to Google Apps, we very specifically did not entertain the vaguest=
concept of using a connector with Outlook and we've been firm about te=
lling Outlook and Apple Mail users that we fully support the web client onl=
y . . . and it has worked out really well for nearly everyone involved. <br=
>
<br>We also used Meeting Maker back in the day, and there are still some pe=
ople who miss those halcyon days of yesteryear when email was Eudora and ca=
lendars were separate, but you're doing yourself a disservice if you do=
n't take advantage of the huge collaborative possibilities with a suite=
.<br>
<br>Good luck - it's a sweeping change, but everyone adjusts to it even=
tually!<br><br>Bud Hiller<br>Bucknell Univ<br></font></font><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Brian Gibson <span dir=3D=
"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:gibson_brian@wheatoncollege.edu">gibson_brian@w=
heatoncollege.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Hi everyone, thanks for all the responses, the info is very helpful.
Just as a side note, along with looking at Microsoft Live@edu and
Google we are also looking at these in-house products.<br>
<br>
Zimbra (we use VMware now)<br>
Oracle's Collaboration Suite<br>
Sogo<br>
<br>
or... sticking with our current mail server product (CommuniGate
Pro) and start using the Calendaring side of it too (right now we
use Meeting Maker).<br>
<br>
If anyone has thoughts on the above products feel free to chime in
:-)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 11/10/2011 9:58 AM, Shannon Peevey wrote:
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<div>We also have a local mail server used for mailing
lists.</div>
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<div>Good point, Robert! Google imposes a recipient limit on
messages, so it is probably a necessity =A0to keep your mailing
lists inhouse, or use a dedicated mailing list service.</div>
</div>
<br clear=3D"all"><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">
<div><br>
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-- <br>
Shannon Eric Peevey<br>
Systems Programmer<br>
Information and Instructional Technologies<br>
St. Olaf College<br>
1510 St. Olaf Avenue<br>
Northfield, MN =A055057-1097 USA<br>
<a href=3D"tel:%2B1%20507%20786-3731" value=3D"+15077863731" target=
=3D"_blank">+1 507 786-3731</a>, =A0<a href=3D"tel:%2B1%20507%20786-3096" v=
alue=3D"+15077863096" target=3D"_blank">+1 507 786-3096</a> (fax)<br>
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Brian Gibson<br>
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