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Re: Student Antivirus Replacement Project
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Koerber, Jeff)
Thu Oct 13 18:06:16 2011
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We require AV for PCs (enforced on our ResNet network and secure wireless n=
etwork by Clean Access). We don't require AV for Macs, but recommend ClamX=
av.
Jeff Koerber
Supervisor, Student Computing Services Lab & Service Desk
Towson University
Towson, MD
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Rizzo, Ji=
m
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:08 PM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [RESNET-L] Student Antivirus Replacement Project
Do any of you require that Macs have anti-virus software? Our policy curren=
tly requires it for all. We're on McAfee now and offer it to students (both=
for Windows and OS X).
Jim
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Helpdesk Manager
Providence College Information Technology
(401) 865-1277
AIM: JRizzoPC
http://itweb.providence.edu/helpdesk
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From: Derek Buchanan <buchands@GMAIL.COM<mailto:buchands@GMAIL.COM>>
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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:05:18 -0400
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Subject: Re: [RESNET-L] Student Antivirus Replacement Project
Andy,
Respones inline...
1. What did/would you move to?
We moved to Forefront for Faculty/Staff (which our license currently includ=
es). Students can run whatever they want or if they need one, we recommend=
Microsoft Security Essentials as a freebie.
2. How do you handle the PR campaign to the students to get them to switch=
? We don't want to tell them we've been giving them a bad product that we =
paid for for the last few years, but we still want them to switch. Also, f=
aculty/staff may not make the switch at the same time, so we don't want the=
m to see the ads and make a fuss over not getting the best product.
We did not do a PR campaign per se. We stopped using Cisco Clean Access wh=
ich was forcing select AV clients. We were behind at least two versions an=
d the cost was just too high. We went with Palo Alto for a network protect=
ion device. There is no checking for AV at this point. Students are promp=
ted for user ID and password on a webpage before they can get on the intern=
et.
3. Do you have any gripes over Symantec you'd like to share?
Symantec, was slow in my opinion from the previous college that I worked at=
. The install/uninstall did not work as advertised. (Say hello to Norton R=
emoval Tool!) We switched off from Mcafee here at MBC as the price kept go=
ing up and the performance kept going down. It was a waste of time and mon=
ey.
Hope that helps,
Derek
Mary Baldwin College
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We require AV for PCs (en=
forced on our ResNet network and secure wireless network by Clean Access).&=
nbsp; We don’t require AV for Macs, but recommend ClamXav.<o:p></o:p>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rizzo, Jim<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:08 PM<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:black">Do any of you require that =
Macs have anti-virus software? Our policy currently requires it for all. We=
're on McAfee now and offer it to students (both for Windows
and OS X).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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chands@GMAIL.COM">buchands@GMAIL.COM</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Resnet Forum <<a href=3D"mailto:RESNET-L@listserv.nd.ed=
u">RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:05:18 -0400<br>
<b>To: </b>Resnet Forum <<a href=3D"mailto:RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu">RES=
NET-L@listserv.nd.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [RESNET-L] Student Antivirus Replacement Project<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
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ck">Andy,
<br>
Respones inline...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:black">1. What did/would you=
move to?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:black">We moved to Forefront for F=
aculty/Staff (which our license currently includes). Students can run=
whatever they want or if they need one, we recommend Microsoft
Security Essentials as a freebie.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Ca=
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n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:black">2. How do you handle =
the PR campaign to the students to get them to switch? We don't want =
to tell them we've been giving them a bad product that we paid for
for the last few years, but we still want them to switch. Also, facu=
lty/staff may not make the switch at the same time, so we don't want them t=
o see the ads and make a fuss over not getting the best product.<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:black">We did not do a PR campaign=
per se. We stopped using Cisco Clean Access which was forcing select=
AV clients. We were behind at least two versions and the cost
was just too high. We went with Palo Alto for a network protection d=
evice. There is no checking for AV at this point. Students are =
prompted for user ID and password on a webpage before they can get on the i=
nternet.
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
3. Do you have any gripes over Symantec you'd like to share?<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:black">Symantec, was slow in my op=
inion from the previous college that I worked at. The install/uninstall did=
not work as advertised. (Say hello to Norton Removal Tool!)
We switched off from Mcafee here at MBC as the price kept going up and the=
performance kept going down. It was a waste of time and money.<br>
<br>
Hope that helps,<br>
Derek<br>
Mary Baldwin College<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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