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Re: Students\parents who object to wireless?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Chris Webster)
Fri Sep 2 00:34:17 2011
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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 00:32:17 -0400
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From: Chris Webster <chris.webster@ncsu.edu>
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What is it that these parents are afraid of? The RF signal is the only thing
I can come up with, and that's going to penetrate the room whether it's
mounted in the room or outside in the hallway.
Based on what you said about cost recovery, I assume these APs are treated
as part of the building infrastructure, much like the in-wall wiring or
plumbing. If that's the case, my off-the-cuff thought is that it's part of
the building and if the parents or students don't like it, they can either
a) suck it up, or b) ask to be moved.
But it's 12:30am and my mind is tired. Perhaps I'm missing a really obvious
reason one wouldn't want to share a room with an AP (just think of all the
awesome SUPER-FAST internets you could get being that close!)
-Chris
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Caroline Couture
<caroline@pobox.upenn.edu>wrote:
> Hi Folks!
>
> It doesn't happen often but again this year we have a student\parents who
> have objected to having an access point in the room. Our access points are
> wall-mounted with no cover in the room.
>
> Do you fine in such cases? How much?
>
> What have you done in this situation?
>
> We do have language in the student handbook about not vandalizing the ap
> and have a cost, @$50.00, associated with tampering.
>
> We have, jokingly, thought about about just covering the box and telling
> the family that they are "protected." But that seems both disingenuous and
> also seems to encourage not proven ideas.
>
> We could perhaps move the student but we would have to talk to our housing
> folks about moving him. The other incident we had the student refused to be
> moved.
>
> We could have the ap moved but that might cause coverage problems in the
> area. We also have a cost recovery model in place so someone would have to
> foot the bill for moving the ap and any changes to wiring.
>
> It seems to me that this may be a growing problem with people conflating
> wireless and the possible issues with cell phones and also more and more
> people having a deep distrust of technology and those who say such tech is
> safe.
>
> Thanks for any insight you can provide.
>
> Caroline
>
> Use what seems like poison as medicine. Use your personal suffering as the
> path to compassion for all beings. -- Pema Chodron
>
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What is it that these parents are afraid of? The RF signal is the only thin=
g I can come up with, and that's going to penetrate the room whether it=
's mounted in the room or outside in the hallway. <br><br>Based on what=
you said about cost recovery, I assume these APs are treated as part of th=
e building infrastructure, much like the in-wall wiring or plumbing. If tha=
t's the case, my off-the-cuff thought is that it's part of the buil=
ding and if the parents or students don't like it, they can either a) s=
uck it up, or b) ask to be moved.<br>
<br>But it's 12:30am and my mind is tired. Perhaps I'm missing a re=
ally obvious reason one wouldn't want to share a room with an AP (just =
think of all the awesome SUPER-FAST internets you could get being that clos=
e!)<br>
<br>-Chris<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 6:1=
6 PM, Caroline Couture <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:caroline@pob=
ox.upenn.edu">caroline@pobox.upenn.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote=
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc soli=
d;padding-left:1ex;">
Hi Folks!<br>
<br>
It doesn't happen often but again this year we have a student\parents w=
ho have objected to having an access point in the room. Our access points a=
re wall-mounted with no cover in the room.<br>
<br>
Do you fine in such cases? How much?<br>
<br>
What have you done in this situation?<br>
<br>
We do have language in the student handbook about not vandalizing the ap an=
d have a cost, @$50.00, associated with tampering.<br>
<br>
We have, jokingly, thought about about just covering the box and telling th=
e family that they are "protected." But that seems both disingenu=
ous and also seems to encourage not proven ideas.<br>
<br>
We could perhaps move the student but we would have to talk to our housing =
folks about moving him. The other incident we had the student refused to be=
moved.<br>
<br>
We could have the ap moved but that might cause coverage problems in the ar=
ea. We also have a cost recovery model in place so someone would have to fo=
ot the bill for moving the ap and any changes to wiring.<br>
<br>
It seems to me that this may be a growing problem with people conflating wi=
reless and the possible issues with cell phones and also more and more peop=
le having a deep distrust of technology and those who say such tech is safe=
.<br>
<br>
Thanks for any insight you can provide.<br>
<br>
Caroline<br>
<br>
Use what seems like poison as medicine. Use your personal suffering as the =
path to compassion for all beings. -- Pema Chodron<br>
<br>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Chris Webster<br>Senior=
Technician<br>OIT Walk-in Center<br>North Carolina State University<br><br=
>Ph: 919.513.2676<br>Fax: 919.513.2945<br>Email: <a href=3D"mailto:chris.we=
bster@ncsu.edu" target=3D"_blank">chris.webster@ncsu.edu</a><br>
Web: <a href=3D"http://go.ncsu.edu/wic/" target=3D"_blank">http://go.ncsu.e=
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