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Re: blocking p2p?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher Hickernell)
Fri Jun 3 11:16:15 2011
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We do not block them, just so we do not get accused of blocking legitimate =
usage, but we aggressively throttle the traffic. Out of our 100Mbps for Re=
sNet-P2P can only use 500Kbps. Making it almost unusable. We still get co=
pyright infringement notices, but only a few per week. There is no traffic=
shaping on our academic network.
Christopher Hickernell, CCNA, MCSE
Network Support Specialist, ResNet Manager
Clarion University of Pennsylvania
Center for Computing Services
G-13 Still Hall, Clarion, PA 16214
chickernell@clarion.edu | 814.393.2218
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Crowe, Sh=
eila
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:41 AM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: blocking p2p?
Please contact me (off-list if you'd like) if you are blocking p2p apps lik=
e BitTorrents and/or gnutella-like protocols.
DMCA complaints are KILLING me and bandwidth is being consumed at record ra=
tes. We are considering blocking these protocols, in hopes that numbers fo=
r both will improve, and would like to know what the student/customer respo=
nse has been. Alternatively, if you have blocked these services in the pa=
st and are no longer doing, why the reversal? For example, does fear of lyn=
ching have anything to do with it?
I absolutely loathe that I am forced to be the protector of the digital cop=
yright, so don't flame me for being the "man." Nor do I applaud thieves...=
if you come down on the moral duty side.
I wish that this could wait a couple of weeks for the conference, but it ca=
n't. Come to think of it, somebody's gotta do a BOF on this.
Thanks in advance, everyone.
Sheila Crowe
Montana State University ResNet
sheila@montana.edu<mailto:sheila@montana.edu>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">We do not block them, =
just so we do not get accused of blocking legitimate usage, but we aggressi=
vely throttle the traffic. Out of our 100Mbps for ResNet—P2P ca=
n only use 500Kbps. Making it almost unusable.
We still get copyright infringement notices, but only a few per week. =
; There is no traffic shaping on our academic network.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Christopher</span><=
/b><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"> Hickernell, CCNA, MCSE<o:p></o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><i><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Network Support Spe=
cialist, ResNet Manager<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Clarion University of =
Pennsylvania<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Center for Computing S=
ervices<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">G-13 Still Hall, Clari=
on, PA 16214<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">chickernell@clarion.ed=
u | 814.393.2218<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Crowe, Sheila<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 03, 2011 10:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<br>
<b>Subject:</b> blocking p2p?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please contact me (off-list if you’d like) if =
you are blocking p2p apps like BitTorrents and/or gnutella-like protocols.&=
nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">DMCA complaints are KILLING me and bandwidth is bein=
g consumed at record rates. We are considering blocking these protoco=
ls, in hopes that numbers for both will improve, and would like to know wha=
t the student/customer response has been.
Alternatively, if you have blocked these services in the past and ar=
e no longer doing, why the reversal? For example, does fear of lynching hav=
e anything to do with it?
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I absolutely loathe that I am forced to be the prote=
ctor of the digital copyright, so don’t flame me for being the “=
;man.” Nor do I applaud thieves…if you come down on the m=
oral duty side.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I wish that this could wait a couple of weeks for th=
e conference, but it can’t. Come to think of it, somebody’=
;s gotta do a BOF on this.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks in advance, everyone.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sheila Crowe<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Montana State University ResNet<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"mailto:sheila@montana.edu">sheila@montana=
.edu</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
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