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Re: What Antivirus program do you use?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robert Wilson)
Tue Mar 1 09:48:10 2011
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We spent several days slipping on that learning curve in our lab. At this
point, we are looking at licensing costs and are putting the management
aspect of FEP on hold.
We are looking at Microsoft's EES licensing which might help with costs.
http://www.microsoft.com/education/license/howtobuy/agreements/ees.aspx
<http://www.microsoft.com/education/license/howtobuy/agreements/ees.aspx>
Robert
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Johnson, Ken <kenjohnson@letu.edu> wrote:
> You absolutely can install it directly without management =96 but it kin=
d
> of takes away a lot of the value without the monitoring. I would agree th=
at
> compared to other solutions, MS=92s total managed solution is much more
> (somewhat unnecessarily) complex if you are not already running SCCM. It
> works well once you get SCCM and the management packs up and running =96 =
but
> starting from no SCCM compared to other solutions it took us a **lot**
> more learning curve time to get FEP up and fully managed. The end results
> are good though. YMMV
>
>
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu] *On Behalf Of *Rob=
ert
> Wilson
> *Sent:* Monday, February 28, 2011 6:57 AM
> *To:* RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu
>
> *Subject:* Re: What Antivirus program do you use?
>
>
>
> It is my understanding that one can install it standalone without
> management. We haven't attempted that yet.
>
>
>
> Here is a thread about this that might help.
>
>
>
>
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FCSNext/thread/b78e9d43-=
fb91-470a-9450-d5fa7e0e4a69
>
>
>
> Robert
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Jeff Kell <jeff-kell@utc.edu> wrote:
>
> On 2/27/2011 5:10 PM, Robert Wilson wrote:
> > Microsoft updated Forefront Client Security to Forefront Endpoint
> > Protection (FEP). To centrally manage FEP, one needs SCCM which
> > requires its own license and CALs. Since we don't have SCCM, this is a
> > major issue for us.
>
> Is this "absolutely true" or just a preferred deployment scheme?
>
> I ask because I recall hearing the same things about Forefront (the
> current/old one) until some "standalone installers" surfaced. The only
> dependencies after that point are the periodic updates (hooked through
> windowsupdate/microsoftupdate).
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
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> Robert Wilson, McCallie School, Chattanooga, TN
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We spent several days slipping on that learning curve in our lab. At this p=
oint, we are looking at licensing costs and are putting the management aspe=
ct of FEP on hold.=A0<div><br></div><div>We are looking at Microsoft's =
EES licensing which might help with costs.=A0<a href=3D"http://www.microsof=
t.com/education/license/howtobuy/agreements/ees.aspx">http://www.microsoft.=
com/education/license/howtobuy/agreements/ees.aspx</a></div>
<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.microsoft.com/education/license/h=
owtobuy/agreements/ees.aspx"></a>Robert</div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Johnson, Ken <span dir=3D"ltr">=
<<a href=3D"mailto:kenjohnson@letu.edu">kenjohnson@letu.edu</a>></spa=
n> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">You a=
bsolutely can install it directly without management =96 but it kind of tak=
es away a lot of the value without the monitoring. I would agree that compa=
red
to other solutions, MS=92s total managed solution is much more (somewhat u=
nnecessarily) complex if you are not already running SCCM. It works well on=
ce you get SCCM and the management packs up and running =96 but starting fr=
om no SCCM compared to other solutions
it took us a *<b>lot</b>* more learning curve time to get FEP up and fully=
managed. The end results are good though. YMMV</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">=A0</=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Ken</=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">=A0</=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b>=
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt"> Resnet Forum [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:RE=
SNET-L@listserv.nd.edu" target=3D"_blank">RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Wilson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 28, 2011 6:57 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu" target=3D"_blank">RE=
SNET-L@listserv.nd.edu</a></span></p><div class=3D"im"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: What Antivirus program do you use?</div><p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">It is my understanding that one can install it stand=
alone without management. We haven't attempted that yet.</p><div><div><=
/div><div class=3D"h5">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Here is a thread about this that might help.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forum=
s/en-US/FCSNext/thread/b78e9d43-fb91-470a-9450-d5fa7e0e4a69" target=3D"_bla=
nk">http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FCSNext/thread/b78e9d4=
3-fb91-470a-9450-d5fa7e0e4a69</a></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Robert</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Jeff Kell <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:jeff-kell@utc.edu" target=3D"_blank">jeff-kell@utc.edu</a>>=
; wrote:</p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">On 2/27/2011 5:10 PM,=
Robert Wilson wrote:<br>
> Microsoft updated Forefront Client Security to Forefront Endpoint<br>
> Protection (FEP). To centrally manage FEP, one needs SCCM which<br>
> requires its own license and CALs. Since we don't have SCCM, this =
is a<br>
> major issue for us.</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Is this "absolutely true" or just a prefer=
red deployment scheme?<br>
<br>
I ask because I recall =A0hearing the same things about Forefront (the<br>
current/old one) until some "standalone installers" surfaced. =A0=
The only<br>
dependencies after that point are the periodic updates (hooked through<br>
windowsupdate/microsoftupdate).<br>
<span style=3D"color:#888888"><br>
Jeff</span></p>
</div>
</div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"></p><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><b=
r>
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