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Re: What Antivirus program do you use?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Johnson, Ken)
Mon Feb 28 10:14:55 2011
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You absolutely can install it directly without management - but it kind of =
takes away a lot of the value without the monitoring. I would agree that co=
mpared to other solutions, MS's total managed solution is much more (somewh=
at unnecessarily) complex if you are not already running SCCM. It works wel=
l once you get SCCM and the management packs up and running - but starting =
from no SCCM compared to other solutions it took us a *lot* more learning c=
urve time to get FEP up and fully managed. The end results are good though.=
YMMV
Ken
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Wi=
lson
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 6:57 AM
To: RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu
Subject: Re: What Antivirus program do you use?
It is my understanding that one can install it standalone without managemen=
t. We haven't attempted that yet.
Here is a thread about this that might help.
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FCSNext/thread/b78e9d43-fb=
91-470a-9450-d5fa7e0e4a69
Robert
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Jeff Kell <jeff-kell@utc.edu<mailto:jeff-=
kell@utc.edu>> wrote:
On 2/27/2011 5:10 PM, Robert Wilson wrote:
> Microsoft updated Forefront Client Security to Forefront Endpoint
> Protection (FEP). To centrally manage FEP, one needs SCCM which
> requires its own license and CALs. Since we don't have SCCM, this is a
> major issue for us.
Is this "absolutely true" or just a preferred deployment scheme?
I ask because I recall hearing the same things about Forefront (the
current/old one) until some "standalone installers" surfaced. The only
dependencies after that point are the periodic updates (hooked through
windowsupdate/microsoftupdate).
Jeff
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">You absolutely can instal=
l it directly without management – but it kind of takes away a lot of=
the value without the monitoring. I would agree that compared
to other solutions, MS’s total managed solution is much more (somewh=
at unnecessarily) complex if you are not already running SCCM. It works wel=
l once you get SCCM and the management packs up and running – but sta=
rting from no SCCM compared to other solutions
it took us a *<b>lot</b>* more learning curve time to get FEP up and fully=
managed. The end results are good though. YMMV<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ken<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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orum [mailto:RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Wilson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 28, 2011 6:57 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> RESNET-L@listserv.nd.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: What Antivirus program do you use?<o:p></o:p></span></p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">It is my understanding that one can install it stand=
alone without management. We haven't attempted that yet.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Here is a thread about this that might help.<o:p></o=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forum=
s/en-US/FCSNext/thread/b78e9d43-fb91-470a-9450-d5fa7e0e4a69">http://social.=
technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/FCSNext/thread/b78e9d43-fb91-470a-9450-d=
5fa7e0e4a69</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Robert<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Jeff Kell <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:jeff-kell@utc.edu">jeff-kell@utc.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">On 2/27/2011 5:10 PM,=
Robert Wilson wrote:<br>
> Microsoft updated Forefront Client Security to Forefront Endpoint<br>
> Protection (FEP). To centrally manage FEP, one needs SCCM which<br>
> requires its own license and CALs. Since we don't have SCCM, this is a=
<br>
> major issue for us.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Is this "absolutely true" or just a prefer=
red deployment scheme?<br>
<br>
I ask because I recall hearing the same things about Forefront (the<b=
r>
current/old one) until some "standalone installers" surfaced. &nb=
sp;The only<br>
dependencies after that point are the periodic updates (hooked through<br>
windowsupdate/microsoftupdate).<br>
<span style=3D"color:#888888"><br>
Jeff</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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