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Re: WiFi only residence halls
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gaynor, Suzanne)
Tue Mar 28 10:45:58 2017
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 10:22:17 -0400
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Our Aruba access points have Ethernet ports built in and we place one in
every other room, so some lucky students still have Ethernet in their
rooms. Even with reliable wifi, some students still prefer Ethernet, not
only for gaming, but for online homework, streaming video, and music. I'd
hate to lose Ethernet completely.
Suzanne
Suzanne Gaynor
Director, Technology Resource Center
Hartwick College
gaynors@hartwick.edu
607-431-4670
On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 7:16 AM, Sweetser, Frank E <fs@wpi.edu> wrote:
> I personally wouldn't want to go completely wifi only, but if your vendor
> offers it, the faceplate model APs (like the Aruba 205H) offer a good
> compromise. They let you skip the cabling and closet switch ports, but
> still get you a handful of access ports in the room.
>
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> *From:* Resnet Forum <RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU> on behalf of Christopher
> Giannini <cgiannini@FRAMINGHAM.EDU>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 28, 2017 7:09:51 AM
> *To:* RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: WiFi only residence halls
>
> We have been building predominately wifi dorms since 2013 and so far it
> has been working our for us. The students rarely use what few data jacks =
we
> install in the lounges and common areas and when they are in use it's
> usually for gaming. Limited gaming capability in the students rooms where
> there is only wifi has been a minor complaint but overall, not installing
> jacks in the rooms has saved us quite a bit of money on construction cost=
s
> and keeps us in line with the ongoing demand for wifi access. If your
> confident in your wifi vendor I wouldn't bother installing one jack per
> pillow as it seems to be a trend of the past and the jacks will likely go
> unused.
>
> Chris Giannini
> Network Engineer
> I.T.S Dept
> Framingham State University
> 508-626-4733
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Resnet Forum [RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] on behalf of McHugh, Noel
> [McHughN@EVERGREEN.EDU]
> *Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2017 8:22 PM
> *To:* RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> *Subject:* WiFi only residence halls
>
> As we plan for constructing a new residence hall, our budget is tightenin=
g
> faster than expected. Apparently the construction boom in Seattle has
> greatly increased costs since the project was budgeted.
>
>
>
> I=E2=80=99m considering specifying a WiFi only network for the new buildi=
ng,
> instead of the WiFi plus one port per pillow network that I=E2=80=99d lik=
e to
> have. We have less than 10% wired jack utilization at the moment, I expe=
ct
> that demand to drop, and it seems that if we could provide a high
> performance WiFi network with some wired ports in gaming lounges that we
> could have satisfied residents in the 2020s.
>
>
>
> Is anyone running a WiFi only building? If so, how=E2=80=99s that workin=
g out?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Noel McHugh
>
> Residential IT Manager
>
> The Evergreen State College
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Our Aruba access points have Ethernet ports built in and w=
e place one in every other room, so some lucky students still have Ethernet=
in their rooms.=C2=A0 Even with reliable wifi, some students still prefer =
Ethernet, not only for gaming, but for online homework, streaming video, an=
d music. I'd hate to lose Ethernet completely.<div><br></div><div>Suzan=
ne</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=
=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">Suzanne Gaynor<div>=
Director, Technology Resource Center</div><div>Hartwick College</div><div><=
a href=3D"mailto:gaynors@hartwick.edu" target=3D"_blank">gaynors@hartwick.e=
du</a></div><div>607-431-4670</div></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 7:16 AM, Sweetser, F=
rank E <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:fs@wpi.edu" target=3D"_blank=
">fs@wpi.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72">
<p dir=3D"auto" style=3D"text-align:left;margin-top:25px;margin-bottom:25px=
;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:black;background-color:white">
I personally wouldn't want to go completely wifi only, but if your vend=
or offers it, the faceplate model APs (like the Aruba 205H) offer a good co=
mpromise. They=C2=A0 let you skip the cabling and closet switch ports, but =
still get you a handful of access ports in
the room.</p>
<p dir=3D"auto" style=3D"text-align:left;margin-top:25px;margin-bottom:25px=
;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:black;background-color:white">
</p>
<p dir=3D"auto" style=3D"text-align:left;margin-top:25px;margin-bottom:25px=
;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:black;background-color:white">
Get <a href=3D"https://aka.ms/ghei36" target=3D"_blank">Outlook for Android=
</a></p>
<br>
<p></p>
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<div id=3D"m_988078165866189758divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Cal=
ibri, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> R=
esnet Forum <<a href=3D"mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU" target=3D"_blan=
k">RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU</a>> on behalf of Christopher Giannini <<=
a href=3D"mailto:cgiannini@FRAMINGHAM.EDU" target=3D"_blank">cgiannini@FRAM=
INGHAM.EDU</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 28, 2017 7:09:51 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU" target=3D"_blank">RE=
SNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: WiFi only residence halls</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div>
<div style=3D"direction:ltr;font-family:Tahoma;color:#000000;font-size:10pt=
">We have been building predominately wifi dorms since 2013 and so far it h=
as been working our for us. The students rarely use what few data jacks we =
install in the lounges and common
areas and when they are in use it's usually for gaming. Limited gaming=
capability in the students rooms where there is only wifi has been a minor=
complaint but overall, not installing jacks in the rooms has saved us quit=
e a bit of money on construction costs
and keeps us in line with the ongoing demand for wifi access. If your conf=
ident in your wifi vendor I wouldn't bother installing one jack per pil=
low as it seems to be a trend of the past and the jacks will likely go unus=
ed.=C2=A0<br>
<div><br>
<div class=3D"m_988078165866189758BodyFragment"><font size=3D"2">
<div class=3D"m_988078165866189758PlainText">Chris Giannini<br>
Network Engineer<br>
I.T.S Dept<br>
Framingham State University<br>
508-626-4733</div>
</font></div>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Times New Roman;color:#000000;font-size:16px">
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<div id=3D"m_988078165866189758divRpF599263" style=3D"direction:ltr"><font =
face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Resnet Forum [<a =
href=3D"mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU" target=3D"_blank">RESNET-L@LISTSER=
V.ND.EDU</a>] on behalf of McHugh, Noel [<a href=3D"mailto:McHughN@EVERGREE=
N.EDU" target=3D"_blank">McHughN@EVERGREEN.EDU</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 27, 2017 8:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU" target=3D"_blank">RE=
SNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> WiFi only residence halls<br>
</font><br>
</div>
<div></div>
<div>
<div class=3D"m_988078165866189758WordSection1">
<p class=3D"m_988078165866189758MsoNoSpacing">As we plan for constructing a=
new residence hall, our budget is tightening faster than expected.=C2=A0 A=
pparently the construction boom in Seattle has greatly increased costs sinc=
e the project was budgeted.</p>
<p class=3D"m_988078165866189758MsoNoSpacing">=C2=A0</p>
<p class=3D"m_988078165866189758MsoNoSpacing">I=E2=80=99m considering speci=
fying a WiFi only network for the new building, instead of the WiFi plus on=
e port per pillow network that I=E2=80=99d like to have.=C2=A0 We have less=
than 10% wired jack utilization at the moment, I expect that demand to dro=
p,
and it seems that if we could provide a high performance WiFi network with=
some wired ports in gaming lounges that we could have satisfied residents =
in the 2020s.=C2=A0
</p>
<p class=3D"m_988078165866189758MsoNoSpacing">=C2=A0</p>
<p class=3D"m_988078165866189758MsoNoSpacing">Is anyone running a WiFi only=
building?=C2=A0 If so, how=E2=80=99s that working out?</p>
<p class=3D"m_988078165866189758MsoNoSpacing">=C2=A0</p>
<p class=3D"m_988078165866189758MsoNoSpacing">Thanks,</p>
<p class=3D"m_988078165866189758MsoNoSpacing">=C2=A0</p>
<p class=3D"m_988078165866189758MsoNoSpacing">Noel McHugh</p>
<p class=3D"m_988078165866189758MsoNoSpacing">Residential IT Manager</p>
<p class=3D"m_988078165866189758MsoNoSpacing">The Evergreen State College</=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
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