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Re: WiFi only residence halls
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bud Hiller)
Tue Mar 28 09:50:35 2017
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Our newest residence hall was a set of student apartments. We went with a
model of one AP per apt, in the kitchen/living area, and one network jack
in the living area (for gaming or Rokus or whatever) but no jacks in the
individual rooms. That has worked very well -
Bud
Bucknell Univ
On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 9:01 AM, Stephen Wilson <swilson@email.wcu.edu>
wrote:
> As a follow on to this question, for those of you running wireless-only
> residence halls, what is your average AP density? Are AP's in the halls =
or
> rooms? In general, how many rooms are served by a single AP? Obviously,
> some of those answers are dependent on building construction, just trying
> to get an idea of what others are doing...
>
> Stephen Wilson
> Network Specialist
> WCU Network & Telecom Services
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Justin
> R. A. Horm
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 7:41 AM
> To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: Re: WiFi only residence halls
>
> While we have not been transitioning to wifi-only buildings, I will say
> that we have been purchasing cheaper used networking equipment instead of
> brand new switches for student housing locations. The utilization of the
> wired infrastructure by students just does not warrant the cost of new
> equipment. Of course, this does not take into consieration the cost of
> pulling wire, but it is always cheaper to pull it during construction tha=
n
> afterwards, should it be needed in the future for one reason or another.
>
> I do like the idea of setting up lounges with the ability to accomodate
> gaming.
>
> Justin R. A. Horm
> Senior Network Manager
> St. John's College
> Annapolis | Santa Fe
> 410-295-5552
>
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2017, McHugh, Noel wrote:
>
> >
> > As we plan for constructing a new residence hall, our budget is
> > tightening faster than expected. Apparently the construction boom in
> Seattle has greatly increased costs since the project was budgeted.
> >
> >
> >
> > I=E2=80=99m considering specifying a WiFi only network for the new buil=
ding,
> > instead of the WiFi plus one port per pillow network that I=E2=80=99d l=
ike to
> > have. We have less than 10% wired jack utilization at the moment, I
> > expect that demand to drop, and it seems that if we could provide a hig=
h
> performance WiFi network with some wired ports in gaming lounges that we
> could have satisfied residents in the 2020s.
> >
> >
> >
> > Is anyone running a WiFi only building? If so, how=E2=80=99s that work=
ing out?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > Noel McHugh
> >
> > Residential IT Manager
> >
> > The Evergreen State College
> >
> >
> >
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;colo=
r:#000000">Our newest residence hall was a set of student apartments. We we=
nt with a model of one AP per apt, in the kitchen/living area, and one netw=
ork jack in the living area (for gaming or Rokus or whatever) but no jacks =
in the individual rooms. That has worked very well -=C2=A0</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;color:#000000">Bud=C2=A0</d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;color:#000000">Buc=
knell Univ</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote">On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 9:01 AM, Stephen Wilson <span dir=3D"ltr"><=
<a href=3D"mailto:swilson@email.wcu.edu" target=3D"_blank">swilson@email.wc=
u.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">As a follow o=
n to this question, for those of you running wireless-only residence halls,=
what is your average AP density?=C2=A0 Are AP's in the halls or rooms?=
=C2=A0 In general, how many rooms are served by a single AP?=C2=A0 Obviousl=
y, some of those answers are dependent on building construction, just tryin=
g to get an idea of what others are doing...<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Stephen Wilson<br>
Network Specialist<br>
WCU Network & Telecom Services<br>
</font></span><span class=3D"im HOEnZb"><br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU">RESN=
ET-L@LISTSERV.ND.<wbr>EDU</a>] On Behalf Of Justin R. A. Horm<br>
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 7:41 AM<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU">RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU</a=
><br>
Subject: Re: WiFi only residence halls<br>
<br>
</span><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">While we have not been trans=
itioning to wifi-only buildings, I will say that we have been purchasing ch=
eaper used networking equipment instead of brand new switches for student h=
ousing locations.=C2=A0 The utilization of the wired infrastructure by stud=
ents just does not warrant the cost of new equipment.=C2=A0 Of course, this=
does not take into consieration the cost of pulling wire, but it is always=
cheaper to pull it during construction than afterwards, should it be neede=
d in the future for one reason or another.<br>
<br>
I do like the idea of setting up lounges with the ability to accomodate gam=
ing.<br>
<br>
Justin R. A. Horm<br>
Senior Network Manager<br>
St. John's College<br>
Annapolis | Santa Fe<br>
<a href=3D"tel:410-295-5552" value=3D"+14102955552">410-295-5552</a><br>
<br>
On Tue, 28 Mar 2017, McHugh, Noel wrote:<br>
<br>
><br>
> As we plan for constructing a new residence hall, our budget is<br>
> tightening faster than expected.=C2=A0 Apparently the construction boo=
m in Seattle has greatly increased costs since the project was budgeted.<br=
>
><br>
> =C2=A0<br>
><br>
> I=E2=80=99m considering specifying a WiFi only network for the new bui=
lding,<br>
> instead of the WiFi plus one port per pillow network that I=E2=80=99d =
like to<br>
> have.=C2=A0 We have less than 10% wired jack utilization at the moment=
, I<br>
> expect that demand to drop, and it seems that if we could provide a hi=
gh performance WiFi network with some wired ports in gaming lounges that we=
could have satisfied residents in the 2020s.<br>
><br>
> =C2=A0<br>
><br>
> Is anyone running a WiFi only building?=C2=A0 If so, how=E2=80=99s tha=
t working out?<br>
><br>
> =C2=A0<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
><br>
> =C2=A0<br>
><br>
> Noel McHugh<br>
><br>
> Residential IT Manager<br>
><br>
> The Evergreen State College<br>
><br>
> =C2=A0<br>
><br>
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