[41215] in Resnet-Forum
Re: Port per pillow versus port per room
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Stewart)
Thu May 19 10:30:06 2016
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On 16-05-18 06:49 PM, Norman Myers wrote:
>
> We are in the process of designing a new residence hall and of course
> costs are higher than the budget they put at a minimum to get the
> project approved. Now as they look to reduce cost they are trying to
> reduce port per pillow to port per room for hard wire. The main
> problem here is our wireless network (run by campus IT) does not
> support game consoles and smart TVs. Our sign in requires username
> and password while most devices only use password on the selected
> network. Looking for feedback on anyone using port per room, can it
> be done without mini switches, hubs etc? I’d especially like to hear
> anyone who talked a project manager out of trying port per room and
> your arguments.
>
I don't think I have seen anyone talk about the type of solution I saw
at the University of New Brunswick in Fredericton when I attended the
CANHEIT conference last summer. They have outsourced Internet and phone
service in their residences to a local telecom, Bell Alliant. Instead
of trying to implement an enterprise style wifi service with WPA2 type
authentication, they treat each residence room as a separate residential
home. So in other words, each residence room has its own inexpensive
personal wifi router with its own SSID and password. These are low
power units as they are really only intended to provide coverage within
the room they are situated in. Each room only needs one wired
connection for the wifi router as additional wired devices can be
plugged into the four wired ports on the AP. Phone service is provided
with a VOIP phone plugged into one of the ports on the wifi router.
The speed of the Internet connection is superior to what students had
when they were sharing the campus Internet pipe. Students are provided
with a number to report problems directly to Bell Alliant and I would
assume this support is available for much larger time period than what
would be provided by a university managed service desk. It was a bit of
a surprise to find a wifi router in the residence room I was staying in!
Students don't have a roaming capability, but they would not have that
anyways if they were living off campus.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16-05-18 06:49 PM, Norman Myers
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are in the process of designing a new residence hall and of
course costs are higher than the budget they put at a
minimum to get the project approved. Now as they look to
reduce cost they are trying to reduce port per pillow to
port per room for hard wire. The main problem here is our
wireless network (run by campus IT) does not support game
consoles and smart TVs. Our sign in requires username and
password while most devices only use password on the
selected network. Looking for feedback on anyone using port
per room, can it be done without mini switches, hubs etc?
I’d especially like to hear anyone who talked a project
manager out of trying port per room and your arguments.</span></p>
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<br>
I don't think I have seen anyone talk about the type of solution I
saw at the University of New Brunswick in Fredericton when I
attended the CANHEIT conference last summer. They have outsourced
Internet and phone service in their residences to a local telecom,
Bell Alliant. Instead of trying to implement an enterprise style
wifi service with WPA2 type authentication, they treat each
residence room as a separate residential home. So in other words,
each residence room has its own inexpensive personal wifi router
with its own SSID and password. These are low power units as they
are really only intended to provide coverage within the room they
are situated in. Each room only needs one wired connection for the
wifi router as additional wired devices can be plugged into the four
wired ports on the AP. Phone service is provided with a VOIP phone
plugged into one of the ports on the wifi router. The speed of the
Internet connection is superior to what students had when they were
sharing the campus Internet pipe. Students are provided with a
number to report problems directly to Bell Alliant and I would
assume this support is available for much larger time period than
what would be provided by a university managed service desk. It was
a bit of a surprise to find a wifi router in the residence room I
was staying in! <br>
<br>
Students don't have a roaming capability, but they would not have
that anyways if they were living off campus.<br>
<br>
<br>
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