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Re: Ubiquiti Wireless
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Norton, Thomas (IT Operations Admi)
Thu Mar 3 08:17:15 2016
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Hey Jim, That is correct I was just using a different point of terminology.=
I was referring to a dense deployments of APs in this regard, Not client=
s.
In regards to high density "LPV" that is a completely different ball game.=
You have to have account for much more than the norm.
T.J. Norton
Sr. Wireless Engineer - Team Lead
IT Network Services - Wireless
Liberty University | Training Champions for Christ since 1971
On Mar 3, 2016, at 7:49 AM, Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services) <bosborne@L=
IBERTY.EDU<mailto:bosborne@liberty.edu>> wrote:
Aruba Networks generally refers to their dense deployments as "large public=
venues" Here is their Design Guide they have uses in Levi's Stadium (home =
of Super Bowl 50) end elsewhere.
http://community.arubanetworks.com/t5/Validated-Reference-Design/Very-High-=
Density-802-11ac-Networks-Validated-Reference-Design/ta-p/230891
?????
Bruce Osborne
Wireless Engineer
IT Network Services - Wireless
(434) 592-4229
LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
Training Champions for Christ since 1971
From: Jim Warner [mailto:warner@ucsc.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: Ubiquiti Wireless
A agree with Thomas Norton's conclusion -- that wireless designs should be =
done
for 5 GHz. But he also seems to be saying that residential wireless is "hig=
h density."
There are lots of students and they have lots of devices. But high density =
is a
large lecture hall or a sports arena. In a residence, students are spread o=
ut so that the max device associations to a single AP radio is in the range=
of 10. Perhaps this is more a point of terminology. True high density pres=
ents design barriers that are much more challenging than residential.
> I suggest designing with 5ghz 20mhz channels for dense deploy?
> ments. Also if you design for 5ghz your 2.4 calculations/heat map
> will come out pretty well anyway.
jim warner
univ cal santa cruz
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<div>Hey Jim, That is correct I was just using a different point of termino=
logy. I was referring to a dense deployments of APs in this regard, &=
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<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">In regards to high density "LPV" t=
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On Mar 3, 2016, at 7:49 AM, Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services) <<a href=
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nues” Here is their Design Guide they have uses in Levi’s
Stadium (home of Super Bowl 50) end elsewhere.<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
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orks.com/t5/Validated-Reference-Design/Very-High-Density-802-11ac-Networks-=
Validated-Reference-Design/ta-p/230891">http://community.arubanetworks.com/=
t5/Validated-Reference-Design/Very-High-Density-802-11ac-Networks-Validated=
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warner@ucsc.edu">mailto:warner@ucsc.edu</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 2, 2016 12:07 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Ubiquiti Wireless<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">A agree with Thomas Norton's conclusion -- that wire=
less designs should be done<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">for 5 GHz. But he also seems to be saying that resid=
ential wireless is "high density."<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">There are lots of students and they have lots of dev=
ices. But high density is a<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">large lecture hall or a sports arena. In a residence=
, students are spread out so that the max device associations to a single A=
P radio is in the range of 10. Perhaps this is more a point of terminology.=
True high density presents design
barriers that are much more challenging than residential.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">> I suggest designing with 5ghz 20mhz channels fo=
r dense deploy<span style=3D"font-family:"Cambria Math",serif">&#=
8208;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">> ments. Also if you design for 5ghz your 2.4 cal=
culations/heat map<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">> will come out pretty well anyway.<o:p></o:p></p=
>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">jim warner<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">univ cal santa cruz<o:p></o:p></p>
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