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Re: Electronic Door Locks
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Randy Kouns)
Mon Apr 8 22:27:31 2013
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Jason,
I held the position of System Administrator at Central State University in
Wilberforce Ohio.... They have been a long time client of Heartland Payment
Solutions, 1Card system. As with some of the other systems mentioned here,
they have a tie in piece to Banner (via a script base export/import) they
also offer a highly configurable point-of-sale package that can be setup
for use by Sodexo or other food vendors, an ID Card Photo system and if
desired a POS for the bookstore. They have every configuration for door
controllers you can think of. CSU's installation was old enough they had a
lot of twisted pair back to NETMANGER computers in each building... but I
was able to get them started on using NETWORK controlled systems. If
memory serves me right their wireless controllers work through normal
access points and talk back to the server (each door controller has memory
in case of network failure in case of power/network failure.) Doors can be
set to fail locked or open as desired.
Support was solid and included in annual maint agreement, I was able to
attend the annual user group meeting held in FL (alternates between FL and
CO) and the information share by the company was excellent, the other users
were more than willing to help out with advice and experience.
I was totally impressed with the overall system and ease of use.
Best regards to all my ResNet Friends,
Randy Kouns
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 5:01 PM, John Rocchio <johnroc@ucsc.edu> wrote:
> We use a variety of products here at UC Santa Cruz.
>
> For our interior doors in Housing facilities we use Onity, which is not
> networked but is fairly inexpensive. They are mag-stripe readers with PIN
> pads.
>
> For places where you want something a little more sophisticated but not
> super expensive we have been using OmniLocks from Stanley. They use the
> Zigbee wireless protocol so you have to install special access points for
> them. Their tech support was not great for a while but their 3.x software
> seems to be better. We recently tested the Persona wireless locks from
> Assa Abloy which use 802.11 and they integrated with our CCure system. The
> concerns about most wireless lock products are that you can't generally
> wake them up and lock (or unlock) quickly.
>
> For our exterior doors on Housing facilities, our main library, our newest
> science building and a few other locations we use CCure, which is a wired
> system that is very full featured.
>
> There is a trade show in Las Vegas this week called ISC West where you can
> learn all about this kind of stuff. There is a similar show in NYC in
> November.
>
> John Rocchio
> UC Santa Cruz
> ==============================**=
>
>
> On 4/8/2013 12:21 PM, Jason Healy wrote:
>
>> Perhaps a little outside the "net" part of RESNET, but I'm hoping to get
>> some pointers here.
>>
>> We're once again considering electronic door locks on our campus.
>> Initially we'd probably start with exterior doors, then move to individual
>> dorm rooms and classrooms. I'm looking for any feedback on:
>>
>> - Vendors you like
>>
>> - Vendors you hate
>>
>> - Network issues to be aware of (wireless or PoE)
>>
>> - Other things to watch out for or questions to ask the vendors
>>
>> We're looking into Persona and Locknetics, but happy to hear about anyone
>> else as this is outside my usual area.
>>
>> We'll most likely use RFID cards that can also be used as student ID
>> cards.
>>
>> We're considering hard-wired door locks for the exterior doors, and
>> wireless for interior (mainly for cost reasons when retrofitting existing
>> doors).
>>
>> As the IT guy, I'd love to hear about management, integration with
>> existing directory systems, scripting, etc.
>>
>> Thanks so much,
>>
>> Jason
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Jason,<br><br></div>I held the po=
sition of System Administrator at Central State University in Wilberforce O=
hio.... They have been a long time client of Heartland Payment Solutions, 1=
Card system.=A0 As with some of the other systems mentioned here, they have=
a tie in piece to Banner (via a script base export/import) they also offer=
a highly configurable point-of-sale package that can be setup for use by S=
odexo or other food vendors, an ID Card Photo system and if desired a POS f=
or the bookstore.=A0 They have every configuration for door controllers you=
can think of.=A0 CSU's installation was old enough they had a lot of t=
wisted pair back to NETMANGER computers in each building... but I was able =
to get them started on using NETWORK controlled systems.=A0 If memory serve=
s me right their wireless controllers work through normal access points and=
talk back to the server (each door controller has memory in case of networ=
k failure in case of power/network failure.)=A0 Doors can be set to fail lo=
cked or open as desired.<br>
<br></div>Support was solid and included in annual maint agreement, I was a=
ble to attend the annual user group meeting held in FL (alternates between =
FL and CO) and the information share by the company was excellent, the othe=
r users were more than willing to help out with advice and experience.<br>
<br></div>I was totally impressed with the overall system and ease of use.<=
br><br></div>Best regards to all my ResNet Friends, <br><br></div>Randy Kou=
ns<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 5:01 PM, John Rocchio <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=
=3D"mailto:johnroc@ucsc.edu" target=3D"_blank">johnroc@ucsc.edu</a>></sp=
an> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;=
border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
We use a variety of products here at UC Santa Cruz.<br>
<br>
For our interior doors in Housing facilities we use Onity, which is not net=
worked but is fairly inexpensive. =A0They are mag-stripe readers with PIN p=
ads.<br>
<br>
For places where you want something a little more sophisticated but not sup=
er expensive we have been using OmniLocks from Stanley. =A0They use the Zig=
bee wireless protocol so you have to install special access points for them=
. =A0Their tech support was not great for a while but their 3.x software se=
ems to be better. =A0We recently tested the Persona wireless locks from Ass=
a Abloy which use 802.11 and they integrated with our CCure system. =A0The =
concerns about most wireless lock products are that you can't generally=
wake them up and lock (or unlock) quickly.<br>
<br>
For our exterior doors on Housing facilities, our main library, our newest =
science building and a few other locations we use CCure, which is a wired s=
ystem that is very full featured.<br>
<br>
There is a trade show in Las Vegas this week called ISC West where you can =
learn all about this kind of stuff. =A0There is a similar show in NYC in No=
vember.<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
<br>
John Rocchio<br>
UC Santa Cruz<br>
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<u></u>=3D</font></span><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"=
h5"><br>
<br>
On 4/8/2013 12:21 PM, Jason Healy wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Perhaps a little outside the "net" part of RESNET, but I'm ho=
ping to get some pointers here.<br>
<br>
We're once again considering electronic door locks on our campus. =A0In=
itially we'd probably start with exterior doors, then move to individua=
l dorm rooms and classrooms. =A0I'm looking for any feedback on:<br>
<br>
=A0 - Vendors you like<br>
<br>
=A0 - Vendors you hate<br>
<br>
=A0 - Network issues to be aware of (wireless or PoE)<br>
<br>
=A0 - Other things to watch out for or questions to ask the vendors<br>
<br>
We're looking into Persona and Locknetics, but happy to hear about anyo=
ne else as this is outside my usual area.<br>
<br>
We'll most likely use RFID cards that can also be used as student ID ca=
rds.<br>
<br>
We're considering hard-wired door locks for the exterior doors, and wir=
eless for interior (mainly for cost reasons when retrofitting existing door=
s).<br>
<br>
As the IT guy, I'd love to hear about management, integration with exis=
ting directory systems, scripting, etc.<br>
<br>
Thanks so much,<br>
<br>
Jason<br>
<br>
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