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Re: Windows 8 wireless problems

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SHIH, WENDY)
Thu Jan 24 14:56:17 2013

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Andy,
We  have different setup but as Cary pointed out  we had issues with some c=
lient drivers won't be able to connect to WPA  last semester and we have id=
entified it is the Cisco WLC code issue.  We upgraded the code and the issu=
es have gone away.  Good luck!
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2749073

http://blogs.cisco.com/wireless/get-your-wi-fi-network-ready-for-windows-8/=
#utm_source=3Dfeedburner&utm_medium=3Dfeed&utm_campaign=3DFeed%3A+CiscoBlog=
Mobility+%28Cisco+Blog+%C2%BB+Mobility%29<http://blogs.cisco.com/wireless/g=
et-your-wi-fi-network-ready-for-windows-8/#utm_source=3Dfeedburner&utm_medi=
um=3Dfeed&utm_campaign=3DFeed:+CiscoBlogMobility+(Cisco+Blog+=BB+Mobility)>

On Jan 18, 2013, at 10:29 AM, "Lyons, Andrew H" <alyons@albany.edu<mailto:a=
lyons@albany.edu>> wrote:

Andy,

We have LDAP/RADIUS on the back, but otherwise sounds the same. The only is=
sue that we have had is that many of the clients have taken several cycles =
of trying the automatic connection, authenticate, it fails, forget, try aga=
in. They have ranged from first time success through a bunch of repetitions=
 and suddenly are OK -- actually quite similar to what we have seen with Ma=
c OS 10.7 and 10.8.

Andrew Lyons
IT Support Specialist
ITS Client Support Services
University at Albany



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From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<mailto:L@LISTSERV.ND.ED=
U>] On Behalf Of Muraca, Peppino P.
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 9:58 AM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU>
Subject: Re: [RESNET-L] Windows 8 wireless problems

Andy, we are using the exact same set up as you are ,  Trapeze/Juniper  AD =
and Microsoft radius,  using 802.1X  and have had no issues with Win8 as of=
 yet, we actually find it easier to connect, as we hide our ssid and window=
s 8 will tell us there is a network available, we fill in the ssid name and=
 it will connect once user provides username and password.

Pino

Peppino Muraca
Sr. Network Administrator
Stonehill College
508-565-1193
pmuraca@stonehill.edu<mailto:pmuraca@stonehill.edu>


-----Original Message-----
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Andy Voel=
ker
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 4:37 PM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: Windows 8 wireless problems

Sorry, we are a Trapeze/Juniper campus.  We have a microsoft Radius and Act=
ive directory environment on the back end.

-- Andy Voelker
Manager of Student Computing in the Technology Commons WCU Staff Senator (P=
rofessional Category), UNC Staff Assembly member Western Carolina Universit=
y ________________________________________
From: Resnet Forum [RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Cary Burnette [k=
erm@ncat.edu]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 3:20 PM
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: Windows 8 wireless problems

You did not say if you are using  Cisco wireless or not. There is a bug in =
certain versions of the Cisco wireless controller that effects Windows 8. S=
ee link:

https://supportforums.cisco.com/docs/DOC-27213

------------------
Cary Burnette (kerm@ncat.edu)
Network Services, DoIT
NC A&T State University
038 IRC
Greensboro, NC 27411

336-285-2392 (Direct)
336-334-3833 (Fax)








From:        Andy Voelker <avoelker@email.wcu.edu>
To:        RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU,
Date:        01/17/2013 03:15 PM
Subject:        Windows 8 wireless problems
Sent by:        Resnet Forum <RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU>
________________________________



Is anyone else having massive problems getting windows 8 an on 802.1x WPA2-=
Enterprise wireless network?  We are seeing the following issues:

1.  Drivers shipped with budget computers lack the necessary components to =
pass credentials.  Many of these manufacturers are shipping drivers from Fe=
b. 2012, which means they were tested on consumer preview only.  Of course =
some manufacturers have updates and some don't.  Some we have to go to othe=
r sources to get drivers for.  To remedy this, our only option is to hook i=
n a USB wireless adapter with good drivers until the proper driver updates =
are cleared.  At this point the blame appears on us because those people ca=
n connect to home networks, Starbucks, etc.  We are going to purchase a few=
 wireless cards to go in our multimedia checkout system for desperate cases=
.

2.  We call this one "sticky credentials".  I, as a staff member, can log i=
n to the wireless network on a student computer and it will pass credential=
s and work.  If a student puts their credentials in, the process fails befo=
re it hits Radius.  I check all the logs and nothing has gone through that =
username.  I have cleared the wireless profile in netsh and made sure it wa=
s forgotten in the GUI.  I have also cleared off all certificates.  Does an=
yone know where Windows saves 802.1x credentials so I can make sure to nuke=
 it as well?

If you have any ideas, let me know.  Thanks!


-- Andy Voelker
Manager of Student Computing in the Technology Commons WCU Staff Senator (P=
rofessional Category), UNC Staff Assembly member Western Carolina Universit=
y

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Andy,
<div>We &nbsp;have different setup but as Cary pointed out &nbsp;we had iss=
ues with some client drivers won't be able to connect to WPA &nbsp;last sem=
ester and we have identified it is the Cisco WLC code issue. &nbsp;We upgra=
ded the code and the issues have gone away. &nbsp;Good luck!</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2749073">http://support.mic=
rosoft.com/kb/2749073</a></div>
<div><br>
</div>
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<blockquote type=3D"cite">
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<blockquote type=3D"cite"><a href=3D"http://blogs.cisco.com/wireless/get-yo=
ur-wi-fi-network-ready-for-windows-8/#utm_source=3Dfeedburner&amp;utm_mediu=
m=3Dfeed&amp;utm_campaign=3DFeed:&#43;CiscoBlogMobility&#43;(Cisco&#43;Blog=
&#43;=BB&#43;Mobility)">http://blogs.cisco.com/wireless/get-your-wi-fi-netw=
ork-ready-for-windows-8/#utm_source=3Dfeedburner&amp;utm_medium=3Dfeed&amp;=
utm_campaign=3DFeed%3A&#43;CiscoBlogMobility&#43;%28Cisco&#43;Blog&#43;%C2%=
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<div>On Jan 18, 2013, at 10:29 AM, &quot;Lyons, Andrew H&quot; &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:alyons@albany.edu">alyons@albany.edu</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">
<blockquote type=3D"cite">Andy,<br>
<br>
We have LDAP/RADIUS on the back, but otherwise sounds the same. The only is=
sue that we have had is that many of the clients have taken several cycles =
of trying the automatic connection, authenticate, it fails, forget, try aga=
in. They have ranged from first
 time success through a bunch of repetitions and suddenly are OK -- actuall=
y quite similar to what we have seen with Mac OS 10.7 and 10.8.<br>
<br>
Andrew Lyons<br>
IT Support Specialist<br>
ITS Client Support Services<br>
University at Albany<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-<a href=3D"mailto:L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU">L@LI=
STSERV.ND.EDU</a>] On Behalf Of Muraca, Peppino P.<br>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 9:58 AM<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU">RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU</a=
><br>
Subject: Re: [RESNET-L] Windows 8 wireless problems<br>
<br>
Andy, we are using the exact same set up as you are , &nbsp;Trapeze/Juniper=
 &nbsp;AD and Microsoft radius, &nbsp;using 802.1X &nbsp;and have had no is=
sues with Win8 as of yet, we actually find it easier to connect, as we hide=
 our ssid and windows 8 will tell us there is a network
 available, we fill in the ssid name and it will connect once user provides=
 username and password.<br>
<br>
Pino<br>
<br>
Peppino Muraca<br>
Sr. Network Administrator<br>
Stonehill College<br>
508-565-1193<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:pmuraca@stonehill.edu">pmuraca@stonehill.edu</a><br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Resnet Forum [mailto:RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Andy Voel=
ker<br>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 4:37 PM<br>
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<br>
Subject: Re: Windows 8 wireless problems<br>
<br>
Sorry, we are a Trapeze/Juniper campus. &nbsp;We have a microsoft Radius an=
d Active directory environment on the back end.<br>
<br>
-- Andy Voelker<br>
Manager of Student Computing in the Technology Commons WCU Staff Senator (P=
rofessional Category), UNC Staff Assembly member Western Carolina Universit=
y ________________________________________<br>
From: Resnet Forum [RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Cary Burnette [k=
erm@ncat.edu]<br>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 3:20 PM<br>
To: RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<br>
Subject: Re: Windows 8 wireless problems<br>
<br>
You did not say if you are using &nbsp;Cisco wireless or not. There is a bu=
g in certain versions of the Cisco wireless controller that effects Windows=
 8. See link:<br>
<br>
https://supportforums.cisco.com/docs/DOC-27213<br>
<br>
------------------<br>
Cary Burnette (kerm@ncat.edu)<br>
Network Services, DoIT<br>
NC A&amp;T State University<br>
038 IRC<br>
Greensboro, NC 27411<br>
<br>
336-285-2392 (Direct)<br>
336-334-3833 (Fax)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
From: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Andy Voelker &lt;avoelker@e=
mail.wcu.edu&gt;<br>
To: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;RESNET-L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU,<br>
Date: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;01/17/2013 03:15 PM<br>
Subject: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Windows 8 wireless probl=
ems<br>
Sent by: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Resnet Forum &lt;RESNET-=
L@LISTSERV.ND.EDU&gt;<br>
________________________________<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Is anyone else having massive problems getting windows 8 an on 802.1x WPA2-=
Enterprise wireless network? &nbsp;We are seeing the following issues:<br>
<br>
1. &nbsp;Drivers shipped with budget computers lack the necessary component=
s to pass credentials. &nbsp;Many of these manufacturers are shipping drive=
rs from Feb. 2012, which means they were tested on consumer preview only. &=
nbsp;Of course some manufacturers have updates
 and some don't. &nbsp;Some we have to go to other sources to get drivers f=
or. &nbsp;To remedy this, our only option is to hook in a USB wireless adap=
ter with good drivers until the proper driver updates are cleared. &nbsp;At=
 this point the blame appears on us because those
 people can connect to home networks, Starbucks, etc. &nbsp;We are going to=
 purchase a few wireless cards to go in our multimedia checkout system for =
desperate cases.<br>
<br>
2. &nbsp;We call this one &quot;sticky credentials&quot;. &nbsp;I, as a sta=
ff member, can log in to the wireless network on a student computer and it =
will pass credentials and work. &nbsp;If a student puts their credentials i=
n, the process fails before it hits Radius. &nbsp;I check all
 the logs and nothing has gone through that username. &nbsp;I have cleared =
the wireless profile in netsh and made sure it was forgotten in the GUI. &n=
bsp;I have also cleared off all certificates. &nbsp;Does anyone know where =
Windows saves 802.1x credentials so I can make
 sure to nuke it as well?<br>
<br>
If you have any ideas, let me know. &nbsp;Thanks!<br>
<br>
<br>
-- Andy Voelker<br>
Manager of Student Computing in the Technology Commons WCU Staff Senator (P=
rofessional Category), UNC Staff Assembly member Western Carolina Universit=
y<br>
<br>
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