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Re: I'm with Gene

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Kare Presttun)
Mon Mar 18 23:39:19 1996

Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 19:34:23 +0100
From: Kare Presttun <Kare.Presttun@alcatel.no>
To: ids@uow.edu.au
Reply-To: ids@uow.edu.au

Anthony C. Zboralski wrote:
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> On Sat, 24 Feb 1996, Steve Smith wrote:
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> [...]
> > than just securing your Passwd.  Everything should be cross-checked,
> > meaning if you have a user that connects remotely, you better have a
> > call back verification system, PLUS, On your hardware level, only the
> [...]
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> I used to call some bbs in Hong Kong., all the HK boards were
> using call back verification in the new user application.. but it
> couldn't dial overseas.. so the way to defeat i found was to call right
> back, play a the dial tone freq and send an ATA to the modem.
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> Of course, it didn't work all the time.
> Anthony C. Zboralski, <frantic@worldnet.net>

That's right, it will not work if the modem hangs up for about two minutes
(delay depending on network, but two minutes should be enough for
the networks I know) before it dials back. That is because many
networks will not disconnect immidiately unless the calling side
hangs up. If only the called side hangs up, the network will wait
1-2 minutes before it disconnects. This is the nice feature that
allows you to pick up a call in the hall, say hang on a minute,
hang up, walk into the living room to sit down and pick it up, and the
call is still there.
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> Send a msg to <pgp-public-keys@foo.oucs.ox.ac.uk> with the command
> "GET 0x38239E75" in the subject field in order to get my PGP:pub/key.
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> [ That is why callback should be implemented with seperate dial-out/dial
> -in lines. Users call in on dial-in and system calls back on seperate
> "dial out only" lines. - RuF ]

Regards,
K=E5re
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