[833] in UA Senate
Re: athena printing committee
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Adam Bockelie)
Sun Oct 17 23:25:36 2010
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 23:25:31 -0400
From: Adam Bockelie <bockelie@MIT.EDU>
To: Betsy Riley <rileyb@mit.edu>
CC: Owen C Derby <oderby@mit.edu>, Michael E Plasmeier <theplaz@mit.edu>,
Daniel D Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu>, Richard A Dahan <rdahan@mit.edu>,
"ua-senate@mit.edu" <ua-senate@mit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4E789960-EB4A-437B-B63B-1ABBBE00CECB@mit.edu>
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On 10/17/2010 11:20 PM, Betsy Riley wrote:
> Okay. When Oliver Thomas came to speak at Senate, he talked about the
> Phase I projects that were completed over the summer but also spent a
> lot of time discussing potential changes to printing that will be
> explored this semester. These changes extended beyond the issues of
> Athena spaces and 24/7 study rooms, including multi-function printers,
> printers designated for certain jobs, and printing straight from sites
> like Stellar. Looking at the reports you sent me, many of these ideas
> have already been proposed, but Thomas said that IS&T wants to test the=
m
> out and will therefore need lots of student feedback.
>
> Since printing is such an integral part of the MIT undergraduate
> education, and since this semester will demand a lot of coordination
> with IS&T to ensure a final printing system that is appealing to
> students, it seems prudent to form a new committee devoted exclusively
> to printing. Furthermore, since Vrajesh suggested that an ad hoc
> committee on printing be formed, I figured that no existing committee
> has the capacity to take on the issue of printing right now given that
> we need to resolve all printing issues by the end of the semester.
Why not use the bill to specifically task CSL to do this? So long as=20
senators keep this on their radar screen you can make this a high=20
priority for CSL.
>
> Lastly, Thomas's enthusiasm for student input is something that we want=
> to cultivate. Having a committee working exclusively with him,
> therefore, makes it more likely that we will maintain a positive
> relationship with him and establish a trend of exemplary UA work. I'm
> worried about the possibility of printing getting shafted if it's just
> added to CSL's list of goals, which would be a shame and embarrassing
> given that Thomas, unlike most administrators, is actually asking for U=
A
> input.
major snaps to this paragraph
>
> Betsy
>
>
> On Oct 16, 2010, at 1:04 AM, Owen Derby wrote:
>
>> tl;dr: The UA Committee for Student Life has been working on printing
>> since last year and will continue to work on it this year. CSL would
>> welcome any and all input from senate into how it should proceed.
>>
>> Betsy,
>>
>> I meant to bring this up at retreat, but I don't think I did. If you
>> want to set goals and see progress on this issue, you would be better
>> off tasking CSL with this than creating an ad hoc committee to do what=
>> CSL is already working on.
>>
>> Also, it might be a good idea to establish some sort of goals in this
>> bill. What do you hope to achieve with this committee (regardless of
>> who is running it)? This bill is not very clear on this front.
>>
>> - Owen
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Michael E Plasmeier <theplaz@mit.edu=
>> <mailto:theplaz@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Betsy and the UA Senate,
>>
>> I am the UA rep on the Institute's Athena and Printing Committee.
>> I worked extensively on the printing issue along with Daniel
>> Hawkins and Richard Dahan in CSL on this issue last year. We did a=
>> lot of work and thinking on this issue. We conducted a survey and
>> talked for weeks about what the best options would be. We put
>> together our suggestions into an 11 page report and PowerPoint
>> presentation. Because we completed our work at the end of the
>> year, without time for Senate approval, and because the Committee
>> was on the same page with the UA, and decided to implement our
>> printing suggestions this past summer anyway, we did not publish
>> our report. Many of our recommendations are already complete.
>>
>> Outline of printing recommendations:
>> -buy new printers - Complete
>> -unify model for Athena and dorm printing support - Complete
>> -Pharos printing system - last I heard the Institute was going to
>> do this
>> -2,000 page/semester quota to limit the top ~5% of printers,
>> CopyTech course readers included - think they are going to do
>> this, CopyTech part questionable
>>
>> The Institute Committee, which Oliver de facto leads, has not met
>> this year. I've sent the committee an email asking if there were
>> any open issues they wished to reconvene on. The remaining issue
>> that is open under our charter is a reconfiguration of the Athena
>> spaces. Hawkins, Richard, and I had proposed closing the disused
>> clusters 38-370, 37-332, 4-166, 2-225, 2-032 and replace them with=
>> nearby quickstations with printers. In addition, MIT should move
>> all of the book out of Barker 5th floor and lock up the books on
>> Hayden 1st floor and open those spaces 24/7 with a bump in
>> computers and group study rooms. Barker, Hayden, and 5th Floor
>> Student Center would become integrated study neighborhoods with a
>> mix of computers, individual study, and group study. The committee=
>> has not shown any momentum in moving forward with anything. What
>> do you think is a better option? Status quo or what we proposed?
>>
>> In any case I think any work on this issue can be handled inside
>> of CSL, as it has been. I extend an invitation to Betsy and
>> whoever else wishes to join me on the issue to work with me inside=
>> of the existing framework. Also, as for moving forward with the
>> Institute committee: if the consensus is that status quo is
>> better, we can leave sleeping dragons lying, but if people actual
>> prefer the 24/7 library space, I can push that issue if need be. I=
>> welcome feedback.
>>
>> -Michael Plasmeier
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Betsy Riley [mailto:rileyb@MIT.EDU <mailto:rileyb@MIT.EDU>]
>> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 10:38 PM
>> To: ua-senate@mit.edu <mailto:ua-senate@mit.edu>
>> Subject: athena printing committee
>>
>> Hello -
>>
>> As I said I would, I have written a bill to create an ad hoc
>> committee to examine changes to Athena printing, provide a
>> mechanism for student input about printing, and ensure that
>> student ideas are implemented or at least appropriately
>> considered. Let me know what you think, if you think anything
>> should be changed, etc.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Betsy
>>
>>
>
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Adam Bockelie
801.209.7233
<bockelie@mit.edu>
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
Class of 2011
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