[819] in UA Senate
Re: athena printing committee
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen Derby)
Sat Oct 16 04:01:20 2010
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From: Owen Derby <oderby@MIT.EDU>
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 01:04:38 -0400
To: Michael E Plasmeier <theplaz@mit.edu>
Cc: Betsy Riley <rileyb@mit.edu>, Daniel D Hawkins <hwkns@mit.edu>,
Richard A Dahan <rdahan@mit.edu>,
"ua-senate@mit.edu" <ua-senate@mit.edu>
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tl;dr: The UA Committee for Student Life has been working on printing since
last year and will continue to work on it this year. CSL would welcome any
and all input from senate into how it should proceed.
Betsy,
I meant to bring this up at retreat, but I don't think I did. If you want to
set goals and see progress on this issue, you would be better off tasking
CSL with this than creating an ad hoc committee to do what CSL is already
working on.
Also, it might be a good idea to establish some sort of goals in this bill.
What do you hope to achieve with this committee (regardless of who is
running it)? This bill is not very clear on this front.
- Owen
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Michael E Plasmeier <theplaz@mit.edu>wrote:
> Hi Betsy and the UA Senate,
>
> I am the UA rep on the Institute's Athena and Printing Committee. I worked
> extensively on the printing issue along with Daniel Hawkins and Richard
> Dahan in CSL on this issue last year. We did a lot of work and thinking on
> this issue. We conducted a survey and talked for weeks about what the best
> options would be. We put together our suggestions into an 11 page report
> and PowerPoint presentation. Because we completed our work at the end of
> the year, without time for Senate approval, and because the Committee was on
> the same page with the UA, and decided to implement our printing suggestions
> this past summer anyway, we did not publish our report. Many of our
> recommendations are already complete.
>
> Outline of printing recommendations:
> -buy new printers - Complete
> -unify model for Athena and dorm printing support - Complete
> -Pharos printing system - last I heard the Institute was going to do this
> -2,000 page/semester quota to limit the top ~5% of printers, CopyTech
> course readers included - think they are going to do this, CopyTech part
> questionable
>
> The Institute Committee, which Oliver de facto leads, has not met this
> year. I've sent the committee an email asking if there were any open issues
> they wished to reconvene on. The remaining issue that is open under our
> charter is a reconfiguration of the Athena spaces. Hawkins, Richard, and I
> had proposed closing the disused clusters 38-370, 37-332, 4-166, 2-225,
> 2-032 and replace them with nearby quickstations with printers. In
> addition, MIT should move all of the book out of Barker 5th floor and lock
> up the books on Hayden 1st floor and open those spaces 24/7 with a bump in
> computers and group study rooms. Barker, Hayden, and 5th Floor Student
> Center would become integrated study neighborhoods with a mix of computers,
> individual study, and group study. The committee has not shown any momentum
> in moving forward with anything. What do you think is a better option?
> Status quo or what we proposed?
>
> In any case I think any work on this issue can be handled inside of CSL, as
> it has been. I extend an invitation to Betsy and whoever else wishes to
> join me on the issue to work with me inside of the existing framework.
> Also, as for moving forward with the Institute committee: if the consensus
> is that status quo is better, we can leave sleeping dragons lying, but if
> people actual prefer the 24/7 library space, I can push that issue if need
> be. I welcome feedback.
>
> -Michael Plasmeier
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Betsy Riley [mailto:rileyb@MIT.EDU]
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 10:38 PM
> To: ua-senate@mit.edu
> Subject: athena printing committee
>
> Hello -
>
> As I said I would, I have written a bill to create an ad hoc committee to
> examine changes to Athena printing, provide a mechanism for student input
> about printing, and ensure that student ideas are implemented or at least
> appropriately considered. Let me know what you think, if you think anything
> should be changed, etc.
>
> Thanks,
> Betsy
>
>
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tl;dr: The UA Committee for Student Life has been working on printing since=
last year and will continue to work on it this year. CSL would welcome any=
and all input from senate into how it should proceed.<br><br>Betsy,<br>
<br>I meant to bring this up at retreat, but I don't think I did. If yo=
u want to set goals and see progress on this issue, you would be better off=
tasking CSL with this than creating an ad hoc committee to do what CSL is =
already working on.<br>
<br>Also, it might be a good idea to establish some sort of goals in this b=
ill. What do you hope to achieve with this committee (regardless of who is =
running it)? This bill is not very clear on this front.<br><br>- Owen <br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Michael E =
Plasmeier <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:theplaz@mit.edu">theplaz@=
mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padd=
ing-left: 1ex;">
Hi Betsy and the UA Senate,<br>
<br>
I am the UA rep on the Institute's Athena and Printing Committee. =A0I =
worked extensively on the printing issue along with Daniel Hawkins and Rich=
ard Dahan in CSL on this issue last year. =A0We did a lot of work and think=
ing on this issue. =A0We conducted a survey and talked for weeks about what=
the best options would be. =A0We put together our suggestions into an 11 p=
age report and PowerPoint presentation. =A0Because we completed our work at=
the end of the year, without time for Senate approval, and because the Com=
mittee was on the same page with the UA, and decided to implement our print=
ing suggestions this past summer anyway, we did not publish our report. =A0=
Many of our recommendations are already complete.<br>
<br>
Outline of printing recommendations:<br>
-buy new printers - Complete<br>
-unify model for Athena and dorm printing support - Complete<br>
-Pharos printing system - last I heard the Institute was going to do this<b=
r>
-2,000 page/semester quota to limit the top ~5% of printers, CopyTech cours=
e readers included - think they are going to do this, CopyTech part questio=
nable<br>
<br>
The Institute Committee, which Oliver de facto leads, has not met this year=
. =A0I've sent the committee an email asking if there were any open iss=
ues they wished to reconvene on. =A0The remaining issue that is open under =
our charter is a reconfiguration of the Athena spaces. =A0Hawkins, Richard,=
and I had proposed closing the disused clusters 38-370, 37-332, 4-166, 2-2=
25, 2-032 and replace them with nearby quickstations with printers. =A0In a=
ddition, MIT should move all of the book out of Barker 5th floor and lock u=
p the books on Hayden 1st floor and open those spaces 24/7 with a bump in c=
omputers and group study rooms. =A0Barker, Hayden, and 5th Floor Student Ce=
nter would become integrated study neighborhoods with a mix of computers, i=
ndividual study, and group study. =A0The committee has not shown any moment=
um in moving forward with anything. =A0What do you think is a better option=
? =A0Status quo or what we proposed?<br>
<br>
In any case I think any work on this issue can be handled inside of CSL, as=
it has been. =A0I extend an invitation to Betsy and whoever else wishes to=
join me on the issue to work with me inside of the existing framework. =A0=
Also, as for moving forward with the Institute committee: if the consensus =
is that status quo is better, we can leave sleeping dragons lying, but if p=
eople actual prefer the 24/7 library space, I can push that issue if need b=
e. =A0I welcome feedback.<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
-Michael Plasmeier<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Betsy Riley [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:rileyb@MIT.EDU">rileyb@MIT.EDU<=
/a>]<br>
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 10:38 PM<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:ua-senate@mit.edu">ua-senate@mit.edu</a><br>
Subject: athena printing committee<br>
<br>
Hello -<br>
<br>
As I said I would, I have written a bill to create an ad hoc committee to e=
xamine changes to Athena printing, provide a mechanism for student input ab=
out printing, and ensure that student ideas are implemented or at least app=
ropriately considered. Let me know what you think, if you think anything sh=
ould be changed, etc.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Betsy<br>
<br>
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